Plante Moran Reviews

Updated March 28, 2015
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  1. Helpful (6)

    Prepare to have no life

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I worked at Plante Moran

    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    Pros

    The pay is competitive, the benefits are decent, the lower level employees are friendly. They also allow you to be flexible in your hours.

    Cons

    They stress a "work like balance" but give you a hard time if you aren't working while on your vacation. The partners are very hostile. The atmosphere is not an encouraging one.

  2. Helpful (5)

    Not a good place

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    Former Employee - Tax Staff in Cleveland, OH
    Former Employee - Tax Staff in Cleveland, OH

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time (More than a year)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook

    Pros

    Nice perks throughout the year, free food

    Cons

    Long hours, unfriendly colleagues, low pay

  3. Helpful (6)

    Old School Mentality

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I have been working at Plante Moran

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    Pros

    Friendly people. Some groups are better to work for than others.

    Cons

    Very little work life balance and flexibility to work from home. Inconsistent processes and procedures and in some cases non-existent processes and procedures. Lack of best practices and inability to accept experienced professionals input of best practices. Some groups do not use a collaborative approach in the review process leading to inconsistent communication and poor training. Pay is 20% below comparable positions in the Big 4 and industry. Benefits are worse than any industry or company I have worked for resulting in larger employee contribution. 401K contribution does not kick in until you have worked over 1000 hours. Less PTO compared to Big 4 and industry

    Advice to Management

    They need to get into the next century and allow for employees to work from home and provide better PTO, better salary, and perhaps allow additional PTO for those who work so much during busy season or allow people to work form home.

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  5. Helpful (6)

    Don't believe the hype

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    Former Employee - Assurance in Chicago, IL
    Former Employee - Assurance in Chicago, IL

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time (More than 3 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook

    Pros

    Pros: Some great people who work hard, fun group events, updated office, somewhat flexible work schedule, some great leadership from Managing Partner and others. Good clients to work with. Decent amount of PTO time is offered. Schedule is more relaxed in summer for practice staff.

    Cons

    1. The firm does not have a strong presence in Chicago. There’s no way Plante can compete with the Big 4 in Chicago, though they may try. They can’t compete with their salaries, either. If you aren’t based in Michigan, good luck.

    2. Charge hour goals not realistic at all. Not much say in the types of clients you’ll work with. Hours during busy season are excessive, despite the firm’s claims that you’ll work less hours than bigger firms.

    3. They love to shove slogans down your throat – work/life balance, jerk-free, Best Places to Work, best accounting firm in the country. But they don’t show staff in their actions how these things are true. And if you show one iota of doubt that you don’t believe Plante is the best firm on the planet, you will be quickly ostracized.

    4. As others have stated, it is a very political environment. Expect a lot of gossip, cliques, scapegoating, looking for people to blame, and the expectation that you go out drinking with the right people. There’s a lot of negative talk that goes on behind peoples’ backs. Many staff are also incredibly fake, so it’s hard to know who is genuine and who isn’t. Promotions seem largely based on politics.

    5. The HR team leaves much to be desired. They are very political, they play favorites, and there’s a lot of gossip and mistrust. It seems they have final say on salaries, promotions, and performance reviews. Many of them seem to be hungry for power and not entirely ethical or trustworthy.

    I left Plante for an accounting job outside of public, and received a big bump in base pay, my bonus potential more than doubled, and I can leave by 4:30 every day. My stress level has decreased and quality of life has improved immensely.

    Advice to Management

    As countless others have said, take a lot at the politics, cliques, administrative inefficiencies, and the overly gossipy environment in Chicago. Stop shoving slogans down peoples' throats and demonstrate why you're a great place to work in your actions and how people are treated. Stop overworking people and make charge hour goals more realistic. Pay people what they're worth based on qualifications, job duties, and geography. Take a look at the outdated compensation philosophy. Insist that your people start to demonstrate the golden rule that you speak so fondly of.

  6. Helpful (9)

    Started well. Promises made. Promised broken. Framed for someone else's mistake. Fired.

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    Former Employee - Senior IT Audit Consultant in Chicago, IL
    Former Employee - Senior IT Audit Consultant in Chicago, IL

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time (More than 5 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    Paid me a salary for 6 years.

    Cons

    Politics. Lots of it. Backbiting. Lots of it. Lies. Lots of them. Fluff mottos (work like balance...jerk free etc etc). Lots of travel. Reimbursement after you jump through hoops. Middle management is typical of a top heavy company (good ol boys club).

    Advice to Management

    Be real. Listen to what the employee wants, not what you want to hear. Stop playing games, it's our lives and careers you are messing with.

  7. Helpful (7)

    Great culture as long as you are not part of Firm Administration

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time (More than 3 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO

    Pros

    Great people, firm management cares about staff, no micro managers as it's all about the results, challenging work, a lot of exposure to Partners.

    Cons

    There have been an abundance of changes across the HR function over the past couple of years and it's a little scary how many long term high performers have left the department. If you are not part of the "in" HR clique you will be pushed out of the firm.

    Advice to Management

    Take a good look at your HR department, it seems policies and procedures do not apply to them, and staff see the negative environment within the department.

  8. Helpful (8)

    Great if you are willing to work hard and fit to their "one size fits all" culture

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    Current Employee - Audit Associate in Southfield, MI
    Current Employee - Audit Associate in Southfield, MI

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (More than 8 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO

    Pros

    Nice flexibilty, independence, client-serving values of founding partners. Firm conference very energizing.

    Cons

    If you are different in any way - looks, style, way of thinking, color of skin, speaking patterns - you will be labeled / categorized as a someone who doesn't "fit," forgotten or passed over for client engagements, and eventually, subtly forced out. In these cases, behavior by peers and partners is passive agressive. Happens time and time again.

    Advice to Management

    Open your eyes to the behaviors of some of the partners and leaders in the firm, especially those in HR.

  9. Helpful (8)

    Not From Michigan? Good luck...

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time

    No opinion of CEO
    No opinion of CEO

    Pros

    - work with some good people
    - good client base

    Cons

    As voiced in some other reviews, decisions are made from a very centralized management that does not take into consideration that there is actually a world outside of the suburbs of Michigan. The firm likes to promote its "no jerk policy" by shoving it down your throat.

  10. Helpful (8)

    If you're not from Michigan, you're not valued!

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    Current Employee - Tax in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Tax in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (More than 5 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    Pros

    Some nice coworkers and some great clients. Great for first three years of experience but then need to go elsewhere.

    Cons

    When interviewing, they say 2400 average work hours....try 2600 if not more. It's all political favorites and if you are from a merged in firm, you are seen as inadequate as compared to original Michigan p&m hires. Management (all Michigan originals and majority - over 90 percent men) act like Michigan area is the only area that can produce higher thinking individuals. Management transfers in there buddies and they are made equity partners within one year of transfer - even though they don't have a local network or book of business to support partnership......but they are from Michigan. Focus and choice is sold in proposals and Interviews but only a select few get to truly practice focus and choice. High billing rates but low low salary once reach in charge level and up. Save the money to pay partners and dangle the carrot for others who work 2500-2600 hours and receive less than 100grand because they don't make charge hour requirements.

    Advice to Management

    Due to the favoritism and horrible salaries, the firm keeps poor performers with less technical abilities and loses the performers who put their clients and the firm ahead of their own best interests. Management follows what the big 4 does but pays like a small community single CPA size firm. Do the analysis so you retain some talent instead of settling for mediocre.

  11. Helpful (5)

    Over rated

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran

    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    nice offices to work in
    flexible hours
    its a smaller firm with the resources of a large firm.
    chicagoland is a nice place to live

    Cons

    too competitive for engagements
    managers look to blame staff for anything that goes wrong
    they talk about the golden rule, but when it comes to practicing ethics, they are just another big accounting firm.
    opportunities for advancement are political

    Advice to Management

    there is a lot of b.s. at the senior manager level. too many "type A" personalities in the office who are willing to walk over anyone.

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