Rain Bird
2.1 of 5 227 reviews
www.rainbird.com Azusa, CA 150 to 499 Employees

Rain Bird Reviews in Arizona

Updated Nov 11, 2013
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Anthony LaFetra

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8% of employees recommend this company to a friend
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Bird's losing all its feathers

Engineer (Former Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird full-time for more than a year

Pros- Opportunity to learn and have a job
- Contribute on different fronts
- Cooperative floor personnel
- Decent pay if in Tucson (would advice against relocation)

ConsWhere should I start
- Complete circus with multiple ringmasters trying to move the company in different directions
- Company objectives change every 6 months (or sometimes after every Strap Plan Meeting)
- Too many chiefs and not enough Indians
- Layoffs/Resignations every quarter
- People demoted and moved around into divisions that they have no clue about
- Clueless managers running the divisions

Advice to Senior ManagementI have stopped giving free advice since no one wants to hear it. They would rather pay for it.

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend – I'm not optimistic about the outlook for this company

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Cannot change this bird's spots.

Marketing Manager (Former Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird full-time for more than a year

ProsBrand still has credibility in retail market; however, brand losing acceptance among commercial customers.

ConsLeft RB a couple of years ago. Recently invited to return. After two rounds of conversations, it was clear that leadership is still out of touch with reality. Smart talented individuals still are seen as threats to the man at the top and his cadre of so called leaders.

Advice to Senior ManagementSell the company while you still have something worth buying. There is no hope for RB's leadership team

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend – I'm not optimistic about the outlook for this company

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Please... Just Don't do it

Anonymous Employee (Former Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird full-time for more than 3 years

ProsWell, at least It's a job

ConsThey will suck your soul... really

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend

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It's a grind

Other Corporate Services (Former Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird full-time for more than 5 years

ProsNot a bad work/life balance
The best and most talented people I have ever worked with...bar none.
Good wages for Tucson.

Cons-You will not retire from here. Less than 20% of all hires makes it to five years.
-You can go from star to goat overnight, through no fault of your own.
-Once you are on the target list, there is nothing you can do to fix it.
-There is no career development. No one will ever give you accurate information how to succeed. Your manager will not spend any time to help you develop skills needed to become more valuable.
-Their stated goal is to have average benefits. They fall somewhat short.
-A word about succession planning - All senior staff members (there were 24 in 2012) are required to have one approved backup. Some are required to have two. So, conservatively, they should have about 30 people in their ranks ready to move up. As of Q1 2012, that number was 0 (ZERO). Company-wide!!! What do you think your chances are of moving up?

Advice to Senior ManagementI doesn't matter. Sooner or later, the talented people of the world will realize that this is not where they want to spend their career. Tony will be dead by the time that happens, so he will never feel the need to change.

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend – I'm optimistic about the outlook for this company

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Troubling culture and direction

Key Management Role (Former Employee)
Phoenix, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird full-time for more than 8 years

ProsProducts are fairly good, although clearly a lack of differentiation to competitive products. They are no better on a quality or feature set comparison. Slow to evolve products to features that are needed to expand share. The real talented, progressive leaders leave very quickly.

ConsAfter many months removed from a management role, in which I always scored very high by the Rain Bird standard, I feel a need to offer my views of the organization. As a past leader for several years, I feel it is my responsibility to objectively comment on this organization.

Unfortunately, I cannot offer and post many positive comments.

 I have seen many talented people put on a corrective action program, and then be told that their performance was wanting in a number of professional areas. I was shocked knowing the work ethic and the level of contribution these so called underperforming professionals contributed. They are very creative, passionate professionals who cared deeply about the job they did for Rain Bird.

Being on the "inside" I watched management at the director level and regional level review these people and trash them with virtually no information regarding their performance. They took it down to the personal level and were completely unfair. The front line managers were basically there to remove them and create ficticious issues with their performance level. Disturbing is the only way I can describe it.

The industry as a whole is well aware of the Rain Bird Corp negative culture and the "go it alone" strategy they have implemented over the years. As the business evolved to an independent national distribution model with enormous influence on buying decisions by the end users at all levels, they chose to ignore it, and not work with it to their advantage, severly impacting their market share and sales. They went from a founding, dominent manufacturer/supplier in the marketplace, to a middle of the road, follow the competition to market, strategy. Slow to react to market needs, clearly lacking creativity and as a result, adopting a follow the competition to market strategy, mimicking the creative robust feature sets of the competitive product line, which were generally introduced several years before Rain Bird copied them (and then presented them like they were new breakthrough feature sets).

After all these years in the business they continue to struggle and clearly do not understand the customer / enduser base and what motivates them to buy the products. They clearly do not understand them, while the competition understands them and has a very effective strategy with end users and distributors alike. The market share of the competitors in some areas is alarming.

The directors of the company are ineffective, lack creativity at all levels and have no clear vision to move the company forward. They are one dimensional, with a lack of overall market/business experience and leadership. They are safe as the ownership seems to be happy with their ineffective management of the business. If only the ownership knew how bad these so called company leaders are, and the devastating impact they are having on Rain Bird market share, business and sales.

Advice to Senior ManagementNotice to ownership: Bring in agents of change at the director level, people with experience steering organizations effectively and understanding markets and what motivates customers to buy. Rid yourself of current directors and long standing sales managers, who incredibly, continue to thumb their noses at distribution. Adjust to current market realities, not what they were 35 years ago. Finally, recognize employees who deserve it, for the commitment and contribution they have made to you business. Stop firing good loyal, people for so called performance issues. Bring people in from outside of the landscape/irrigation industry. Try to repair the Rain Bird image in the marketplace, and understand that it is a pressing issue that continues to grow and get worse.

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend – I'm not optimistic about the outlook for this company

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Succession Planning

Anonymous Employee (Current Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I have been working at Rain Bird full-time for more than 10 years

ProsThey only hire the best just so they can fire the best.

ConsThere are many Cons but one of the biggest at Rain Bird is the succession planning. All managers and directors are required to have identified successors to take their place just in case. So what happens is they will hire or promote someone just to be their backup on paper only later to realize that they are not as good as they thought so they are then pushed out through corrective action. I can hear it now, "Sorry, you are not meeting the expectations required for Rain Bird management." I have seen this more times than I can remember. It's really sad for those individuals that relocate their families just to be pushed out one year later while the hiring manager is seen as getting things done by cycling out the poor performers.

Advice to Senior ManagementStop pretending everything with the company is ok and that the only problems are due to poor performing individuals. Maybe if you knew how to interview you wouldn't keep hiring poor performers. It's all a big charade to keep and protect upper management.

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend

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Thinking about working for Big Tony and his crew? Fuggedaboutit!

Product Manager (Current Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I have been working at Rain Bird full-time for more than a year

ProsThey offered me a job when I needed one (they are always hiring).

The salary for Arizona standards is good.

They pay for relocation and 30 days of temporary housing.

ConsPretty much everything else.

If you have ever heard the old tale of the scorpion and the frog, where the scorpion stings the frog carrying him across the river and they both drown. Then you will understand everything you need to know about Rain Bird. When the frog asks the scorpion why he stung him, the scorpion replies, "It;s my nature." That in a nutshell is Rain Bird. They are all kind and sweet when they recruit you (we only hire the best and the brightest), however once you are there you begin to see the true nature of the firm and its senior managers.

When you wonder why it takes forever to get simple products to market (years instead of months), when you see your director obsessing over punctuation (stage gate process), when your coworkers through you under the bus (monthly team meetings), when you have to use your own personal credit card for everything (you give them a free loan) when you are unable to get a complete bill of material for your product, when your peers are evasive regarding the product line history, when contracts can only be seen by the senior managers, when your buddy ends up on corrective action, etc., etc., etc., just remember, "It's their nature".

I remember being assigned a cubicle in Tucson. The previous occupant, a former product manger in another division had left all kinds of personal items in the desk (checkbooks, receipts, credit card statements, etc.). At the time I wondered why they would leave their personal belongs behind? Later I realized they must have either quit or been fired/escorted out of the building in a hurry. That got me thinking and I started tracking turnover based on the list of field sales people. Within 12 months about 40% of the field sales had turned over.

It all starts going downhill day one. When I asked to see my predecessors files (the job had been vacant for nine months) it took them a week to find them for me. You would think that something necessary to do your job would have been available at the beginning, but that would make too much sense. I think the Sr. Product Manager new he had to mark someone down and was setting me up for failure from day one.

If you choose to work at Rain Bird (which I would really advise you not to), remember not take the abusive nature of the place personally (which you will). They treat everybody like crap, which is why turnover is so high. Their HR system is a joke (the head of HR was an accountant) designed to drive turnover.

For me the turning point came while standing in a muddy poop covered field, looking into a filthy cobweb infested controller filled with dead bugs and mouse droppings that I realized, "This is no way to make a living and their are better ways of providing for my family."

Rain Bird may tell you that Glassdoor is full of bitter ex-employees, and there is some truth to that. Rain Bird leaves the bitter taste of vomit in your mouth. The place is like a large pus-filled boil that eventually you have to either learn to live with or lance with a sharp needle sanitized in fire in order to get out the bloody core. It can be painful and uncomfortable at the time but in truth it is the only way to deal with the infection and move on with the process of healing.

In hindsight knowing what I know now would I do it again? I took the job because I needed the paycheck to feed my family. However, my two best days at Rain Bird? The day I got my first paycheck and the day I resigned and walked out the door.

Advice to Senior ManagementNone. You won't change, because like the Scorpion, "It's your nature."

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend

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Avoid the frustration, stay away, terrible culture.

Sales Representative (Former Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird

ProsGood products. Good associates at RB. You will develop a "We are all in this together" approach with your peers; conversations will be about moving on and how the job search is progressing. You will develop a great network of friends as Rain Bird hires and fires randomly. Many move on to more fulfilling jobs. Your contacts and friends from your time at Rain Bird will prove invaluable in the future.

ConsListless company with no vision/message from ownership. Management struggles to deal with owner as they try to implement strategy. Culture is a disaster, management by fear carries the day. Office is depressing with everyone fearful of a pink slip.

The market looks at Rain Bird as a company that can't seem to get it's act together with sales people, product managers, and engineers coming and going each year. Independent distribution is tired of the endless parade of new sales people who last less than two years in the position, and have no industry experience, while the competition has a sales force that has a staff of reps that on average have been with them for more than a decade.

The Rain Bird strategy over the last few years has been to lower pricing of key product catagories in an effort to drive the competiton out of the business. The result has been shrinking margins for the distributors and less profitabilty for every one.

Corrective action review process at Rain Bird is a total disaster with indescriminate choosing of people who do not "measure up". Once chosen by the directors to be placed on "corrective action" , middle managers will create issues with their reports which have very little to do with reality or the contributions the individual makes to advance sales. As a result, it leaves you with little respect for them. They are a weak lot generally, selling out their direct reports on the direction of incompetent directors. They are biding their time, padding their resumes hoping to leave soon. The good managers/leaders who really care about their employees leave quickly as they will not be a part of the disfunctional negative system and culture. If they stay and try to support their targeted employees, they too find themselves on corrective action.

Company alienates independent distribution network, always promoting their strategy to "go direct to end user" while competitors reap the benefits of partnering with distributors and getting the most out of them to advance their sales. As a result the competition has an incredible advantage in the marketplace. Distribution recommending competitive products over Rain Bird goods is common throughout the domestic market at most distributor branch locations .

As others have written before me, do your research, contact past and present employees. Contact distribution and you will find that it is a troubled organization confirming the consistant negative reviews this company receives on Glass Door.

Advice to Senior ManagementI do not have any advice for management as they are a hopeless bunch at Rain Bird. Many are looking for other opportunities outside of the organization, and are merely trying to navigate through the disfunctional system until they find other employment. To those core employees at the director and management level who manage to thrive and survive, they know how bad the culture is and are just going along for the ride.

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend

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Do NOT even consider working here !

Purchasing (Current Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I have been working at Rain Bird

ProsTucson, az area employer, tucson is a nice place to live and raise a family.

Salary above average

Working for Rain Bird turns this nice city into a CAUSTIC situation.

ConsNO respect for the individual
Obusive personnel practices
Hiring practices and promises very unehtical
Overall working environment creates a leve of distrust at all levels.

Advice to Senior ManagementChange before it is too late

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend

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Unbelievably HORRIBLE Place - but you really should believe the insights on glassdoor.com before you opt to work here!

Anonymous Employee (Former Employee)
Tucson, AZ

I worked at Rain Bird

ProsTucson is a great place to live, but unfortunately not many alternative, reasonably well-paying jobs (Once you get here and fall in love with the community, it's tough to stay due to lack of professional opportunities...)

Competent, albeit generally scared co-workers who see that everyone is in the same dire straits at the prison-like Rain Bird facility, and thus always looking for a job "on the outside"

Air conditioned building (important in 100+ degree heat!) and free, but uncovered parking.

ConsIncredibly twisted, demented and unhealthy culture - Senior Management is not only disinterested in having a decent quality of life for themselves and their own families, but they feel compelled to make their employees equally (or more) miserable - such a sad, sad environment...

Although the >40% annual turnover is tough to believe, it aligns well with corporate philosophy of squeezing as much as possible out of new employees and then simply kicking them to the curb once they're broken down and defeated, and often after they have left behind fairly decent situations in other parts of the country.

Rampant paranoia is evident from the very top and throughout SBU leadership - I've never seen a place that not only hates its channel partners (i.e., distributors) but has obvious disgust for its employees, the very people who are simply trying to help the company succeed, or at least survive.

Advice to Senior ManagementRegrettably there is nothing that can be said that would break through - the paranoid, power freaks in control are just not able to listen to reason. Only the inevitable implosion of the company and subsequent sale of assets by a bankruptcy court will enable the brand to last much more than 10 more years...

No, I would not recommend this company to a friend

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