Rain Bird

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Rain Bird Reviews in Arizona

Updated December 6, 2014
Updated December 6, 2014
245 Reviews
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Review Highlights

Pros
  • pay is good but lots of people are laid off or fired (in 15 reviews)

  • Industry leader; quality products (in 19 reviews)


Cons
  • Senior Management Staff is completely disconnected from reality (in 31 reviews)

  • Left behind are inexperienced rookies following orders given by the inept Sr staff and upper management (in 15 reviews)

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  1. 4 people found this helpful  

    Consider welfare before working here or have comfortable knee pads

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Manager in Tucson, AZ

    I have been working at Rain Bird full-time (more than 8 years)

    Pros

    Rain Bird pay well however they need to as many employees need to spend disposable income on counselling to maintain a level of sanity and their relationships.
    Rain Bird provide employment opportunities for people who know nothing about the industry or what a sprinkler looks like so the pool of candidates is large.

    Cons

    So much to consider when speaking of the cons of working at Rain Bird. Firstly, believe every review on this site as they are accurate and are not from disgruntled employees. Believe me, they would be thankful to get out just as I was. If you require further convincing, check the volume and quality of Hunter and Toro's reviews.
    The staff turnover is appalling except for senior management where they seem to be entrenched due to their uncanny ability to nod their heads and perform random sackings, almost like a cat bringing it's kill to it's owner for approval or is it that the old man doesn't have the minerals to sack those closest to him? He needs a degree of separation.
    I first met the company leader some years back and I see where the polluted fountain starts and how it flows to those beneath him. Who could operate a multimillion dollar business with any degree of rationale from god's waiting room? Unfortunate set of circumstances.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    You have been with RB so long that you have no outside experiences in how business operates today or alternatively, you can tolerate the sore knees at RB.

    Don't let candidates bluff their way into management roles. Surely a screening program needs to be implemented. Psychometric testing by a 3rd party. A recent encounter with a manager in an Asia Pacific subsidiary left me scratching my head and asking the question "How?".

    Go on the Undercover Boss television show and if you still think the company is dynamic and has a great future under your guidance, resign.

    Negotiate a deal with In 'n' Out Burger for customer and company functions. It might cost a little more than usual but the chief will love it.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  2. 7 people found this helpful  

    Disappointment

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Product Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Product Manager in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    For the most part the people that you work with are great and the pay is good.

    Cons

    Ownership and upper management are disconnected from reality.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Management is still using techniques and styles for the 80's which do not work in today's economy. They need to revamp strategies and update management methods. Best thing would be to sell the company to someone who would put money and energy into the company because it has great potential.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  3. 17 people found this helpful  

    Venomous Autocracy

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    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Product Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Product Manager in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    There are many great people who work at Rain Bird - most Tucson based positions require a Masters from a reputable college to even make an interview so the result is an environment full of smart people from diverse backgrounds, international too. Sounds like heaven huh?

    Cons

    There has been much written on the personality and moral compass of the CEO and his team of senior staff. Somehow, Rain Bird continues to succeed in spite of itself - heavy reliance on temp workers, staff on unrecoverable corrective actions, staff under review -both of which are disgracefully subjective situations that have little to do with the quality of work you produce - it is flat out intimidation. The companies mantra of only hiring the best is true....the bit they leave out is they also like to fire the best.
    Career advancement is limited and you never get to control anything - or make decisions but you do get to suffer the consequences if things go pear shaped. Suffice to say - morale is appalling and staff turnover is ridiculously high. Most folks last between 12 and 24 months.
    Watching how this toxic environment makes colleagues cry, personalities change and marriage's crumble is hard to deal with after a while so I left. I actually really liked my job.
    Despite the well crafted and well positioned statements Rain Bird likes to portray of itself the reality is much different. The CEO is autocratic with a lot of venom to dispense - a constant state of fear makes it a tough place to stay focused and get your job done.
    At the end of the day Rain Bird is a private company whose owners do what works for them. Unfortunately working for Rain Bird rarely works for the employee.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Advice to Management? You should be ashamed of yourselves.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
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  5. 14 people found this helpful  

    Nice pay, poor working environment

    • Comp & Benefits
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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Engineer in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Engineer in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Good hard working people. Polite people even when overstressed. Nice weather, spacious parking lot, recently remodeled buildings. Modern computers and software. Decent office spaces but old furnishings. Some very good low ranking managers. Some opportunity to move up in the company but only one or two levels.

    Cons

    Very low budgets and short deadlines. Layoffs monthly or people quit. New employees are not hired to replace those that left. Instead you are forced to do their work but don't get more pay. Every job is being outsourced or moved to Mexico. Promotions are not based on merit. Favoritism and politics get you to the top. Senior Management Staff is completely disconnected from reality. Senior Staff treat employees like numbers, not people. Most of the knowledgeable and experienced managers have left Rain Bird. Left behind are inexperienced rookies following orders given by the inept Sr staff and upper management. The rookies take the fall for the failures of upper management and are demoted, put on corrective action, fired, or forced to quit.
    Periodically employees are required to write a one page document listing reasons they should not be part of the next round of layoffs."justify your existence at rain bird".

    Avoid this place unless you really need the money. You can do a lot better

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Replace HR, bring in a expert to teach you how to run a global company in modern times. You are stuck in the early 1980s mentality.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  6. 3 people found this helpful  

    Bird's losing all its feathers

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    Former Employee - Engineer in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Engineer in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    - Opportunity to learn and have a job
    - Contribute on different fronts
    - Cooperative floor personnel
    - Decent pay if in Tucson (would advice against relocation)

    Cons

    Where should I start
    - Complete circus with multiple ringmasters trying to move the company in different directions
    - Company objectives change every 6 months (or sometimes after every Strap Plan Meeting)
    - Too many chiefs and not enough Indians
    - Layoffs/Resignations every quarter
    - People demoted and moved around into divisions that they have no clue about
    - Clueless managers running the divisions

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    I have stopped giving free advice since no one wants to hear it. They would rather pay for it.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  7. 7 people found this helpful  

    Cannot change this bird's spots.

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    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Marketing Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Marketing Manager in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    Brand still has credibility in retail market; however, brand losing acceptance among commercial customers.

    Cons

    Left RB a couple of years ago. Recently invited to return. After two rounds of conversations, it was clear that leadership is still out of touch with reality. Smart talented individuals still are seen as threats to the man at the top and his cadre of so called leaders.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Sell the company while you still have something worth buying. There is no hope for RB's leadership team

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  8. 7 people found this helpful  

    Please... Just Don't do it

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    Well, at least It's a job

    Cons

    They will suck your soul... really

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  9. 7 people found this helpful  

    It's a grind

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    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Other Corporate Services in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Other Corporate Services in Tucson, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Not a bad work/life balance
    The best and most talented people I have ever worked with...bar none.
    Good wages for Tucson.

    Cons

    -You will not retire from here. Less than 20% of all hires makes it to five years.
    -You can go from star to goat overnight, through no fault of your own.
    -Once you are on the target list, there is nothing you can do to fix it.
    -There is no career development. No one will ever give you accurate information how to succeed. Your manager will not spend any time to help you develop skills needed to become more valuable.
    -Their stated goal is to have average benefits. They fall somewhat short.
    -A word about succession planning - All senior staff members (there were 24 in 2012) are required to have one approved backup. Some are required to have two. So, conservatively, they should have about 30 people in their ranks ready to move up. As of Q1 2012, that number was 0 (ZERO). Company-wide!!! What do you think your chances are of moving up?

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    I doesn't matter. Sooner or later, the talented people of the world will realize that this is not where they want to spend their career. Tony will be dead by the time that happens, so he will never feel the need to change.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  10. 17 people found this helpful  

    Troubling culture and direction

    Former Employee - Key Management Role in Phoenix, AZ
    Former Employee - Key Management Role in Phoenix, AZ

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (more than 8 years)

    Pros

    Products are fairly good, although clearly a lack of differentiation to competitive products. They are no better on a quality or feature set comparison. Slow to evolve products to features that are needed to expand share. The real talented, progressive leaders leave very quickly.

    Cons

    After many months removed from a management role, in which I always scored very high by the Rain Bird standard, I feel a need to offer my views of the organization. As a past leader for several years, I feel it is my responsibility to objectively comment on this organization.

    Unfortunately, I cannot offer and post many positive comments.

     I have seen many talented people put on a corrective action program, and then be told that their performance was wanting in a number of professional areas. I was shocked knowing the work ethic and the level of contribution these so called underperforming professionals contributed. They are very creative, passionate professionals who cared deeply about the job they did for Rain Bird.

    Being on the "inside" I watched management at the director level and regional level review these people and trash them with virtually no information regarding their performance. They took it down to the personal level and were completely unfair. The front line managers were basically there to remove them and create ficticious issues with their performance level. Disturbing is the only way I can describe it.

    The industry as a whole is well aware of the Rain Bird Corp negative culture and the "go it alone" strategy they have implemented over the years. As the business evolved to an independent national distribution model with enormous influence on buying decisions by the end users at all levels, they chose to ignore it, and not work with it to their advantage, severly impacting their market share and sales. They went from a founding, dominent manufacturer/supplier in the marketplace, to a middle of the road, follow the competition to market, strategy. Slow to react to market needs, clearly lacking creativity and as a result, adopting a follow the competition to market strategy, mimicking the creative robust feature sets of the competitive product line, which were generally introduced several years before Rain Bird copied them (and then presented them like they were new breakthrough feature sets).

    After all these years in the business they continue to struggle and clearly do not understand the customer / enduser base and what motivates them to buy the products. They clearly do not understand them, while the competition understands them and has a very effective strategy with end users and distributors alike. The market share of the competitors in some areas is alarming.

    The directors of the company are ineffective, lack creativity at all levels and have no clear vision to move the company forward. They are one dimensional, with a lack of overall market/business experience and leadership. They are safe as the ownership seems to be happy with their ineffective management of the business. If only the ownership knew how bad these so called company leaders are, and the devastating impact they are having on Rain Bird market share, business and sales.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Notice to ownership: Bring in agents of change at the director level, people with experience steering organizations effectively and understanding markets and what motivates customers to buy. Rid yourself of current directors and long standing sales managers, who incredibly, continue to thumb their noses at distribution. Adjust to current market realities, not what they were 35 years ago. Finally, recognize employees who deserve it, for the commitment and contribution they have made to you business. Stop firing good loyal, people for so called performance issues. Bring people in from outside of the landscape/irrigation industry. Try to repair the Rain Bird image in the marketplace, and understand that it is a pressing issue that continues to grow and get worse.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  11. 9 people found this helpful  

    Succession Planning

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ

    I have been working at Rain Bird full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    They only hire the best just so they can fire the best.

    Cons

    There are many Cons but one of the biggest at Rain Bird is the succession planning. All managers and directors are required to have identified successors to take their place just in case. So what happens is they will hire or promote someone just to be their backup on paper only later to realize that they are not as good as they thought so they are then pushed out through corrective action. I can hear it now, "Sorry, you are not meeting the expectations required for Rain Bird management." I have seen this more times than I can remember. It's really sad for those individuals that relocate their families just to be pushed out one year later while the hiring manager is seen as getting things done by cycling out the poor performers.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Stop pretending everything with the company is ok and that the only problems are due to poor performing individuals. Maybe if you knew how to interview you wouldn't keep hiring poor performers. It's all a big charade to keep and protect upper management.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

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