SAS Institute

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SAS Institute Reviews

Updated November 7, 2014
Updated November 7, 2014
390 Reviews
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Review Highlights

Pros
  • SAS is a place that promotes healthy work-life balance and actually mean it (in 89 reviews)

  • relaxing working environment, great benefits including child care support (in 42 reviews)


Cons
  • R&D executive management has good ideas, but execution has been comical lately (in 12 reviews)

  • Hard to move around in the company unless you are at HQ (in 6 reviews)

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  1. 3 people found this helpful  

    A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    Overall, this is a great company to work for and most of the people you work with are more than co-workers. Many of them become lifelong friends.

    Cons

    If you are a young female planning to have a baby or have young children already AND if you are fortunate enough to secure employment here, you will have it made in every sense of the word! I worked here and was successful for over 15 years. I did not have children nor was I planning to start a family any time soon. Nearly 100% of any time when "extra" time away from my home life was required or even working late regardless of the amount of time needed to meet a deadline or just get work done, a woman with children was ALWAYS given preference as well as excused in order to go to their child's dance recital, parent/teacher conference, pick up a sick child, or simply leave in order to pick up their child from day care. Don't get me wrong, all of these things are very important and must be done. However, people like me were ALWAYS taken fro granted and imposed upon by this particular group. Comments were constantly made like He will not mind working late because there is no one waiting on him or depending on him at home!" Or, one of the most aggravating of all, "I can't travel overnight for that event let alone for more than one night a week. He can (or should) go and he will not mind traveling over the weekend in order to get to the event location before Monday morning." The regular occurrence of situations like this week after week after week, quickly made this a bad and blatantly discriminating place to work!

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Don't just talk the talk but instead, walk the walk!

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  2. 6 people found this helpful  

    Not a Sales Driven Company

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Sales Manager in Arlington, VA
    Former Employee - Sales Manager in Arlington, VA

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    Benefits
    Offices - company culture that most individuals get their own office
    Cary extras are unsurpassed - gym, massages, barber, medical facilities
    Great if you need child care for 3 children or less, even better off campus in a regional office - on campus there is a waiting list

    Cons

    Processes are set up based on a small company- not driven to accomplish sales in a timely manner. No documented process, seems like everyone assumes all workers have been there 10 years and just "know how things work"
    Technology is focused on addressing the needs of a few key customers who seem to keep the company in business.
    Spaghetti code is the least of the challenges
    Cary let's the field over sell and under deliver because there is no honest discussion about gaps in capability or performance
    No real bench-marking- wonder why a company of this size and maturity doesn't provide this type of data?
    Salaries are not competitive, even for NC, forget anywhere else
    Federal leadership is exceedingly poor and there is no "leadership" involved - no strategy- only politics and personalities
    Very poor treatment of women - many inappropriate relationships between high level managers / executives and other staff across the company- really bad in Cary.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Technology, technology, technology - of this decade please
    Focus on good management practices not old boy politics and behavior
    Work on diversity! Most Caucasian work force ever!
    Remember that just because the company has a big name in NC, that the majority of your customers don't live there

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  3. 2 people found this helpful  

    Chaos reigns

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    Nice campus and benefits. Private offices.

    Cons

    R&D lacks a leader that is committed to all R&D employees and has a plan to transition the work focus in a sane and rational manner.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Change the head of R&D.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
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  5. 6 people found this helpful  

    A slow but accelerating decline

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    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Software Developer in Cary, NC
    Current Employee - Software Developer in Cary, NC

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    Benefits are still great and salary is competitive. The facilities are top notch and employee creature comforts are plentiful. Gym and cafes are nice and campus is beautifully manicured. Individual interactions are great.

    Cons

    Growth is slow compared to the market. Lots of challenges with old school management failing to adapt to new business and licensing models.

    Top R&D leadership is questionable due to perceived erratic behavior and decision making. Trust is a major concern. The hallways are filled with empty promises. Cliques and inner circles form "leadership teams" that hand down ideas from on high. There have also been borderline unprofessional statements made in public forums sniping at divisions and projects without direct knowledge -- obvious parroting from surrounding negativity that flows fluidly in the inner circle of leadership teams. Add a backdrop of organizational upheaval and it is a recipe for staff alienation, burn out and loss of productivity.

    If you're truly an innovator and cutting edge thinker that just wants to solve problems, this is not your place. Politics and negativity reign supreme in this aging aristocracy.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Stabilize R&D. You have entire departments that are idling at the moment. Put leaders in place that don't play politics but instead get the job done. Get rid of the poisonous people that like to stoke the flames of negativity. Encourage long time middle and upper managers to retire or step aside to make room for new ideas and energy.

    Attract and retain younger talent. There has been a mass exodus of good young talent and leadership as of late. You are doomed to lose more if you do nothing. You don't even know who these people are yet because you have layers of aristocracy in place that prevent it. These people you are running off are the people that are going to eat your lunch because they are that good. You need to keep them to eat your competitors lunch or else the end of SAS will come on much more quickly than we ever realized.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  6. 5 people found this helpful  

    Resting on its laurels, old reputation and marketing spin

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    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 8 years)

    Pros

    The employees are phenomenally talented, bright and I miss them immensely. The benefits package, amenities and HQ campus environment are world class. The ability to make changes to process and challenge status quo is solid - change is generally embraced.

    Cons

    All that glitters is not gold. The outside world sees the media hype, but it is just another organization with flaws and its on the decline. The pay rates are inadequate when compared to others in the industry. Inconsistent standards from one division to another are morale busters. The lack of a clearly defined and communicated succession plan is detrimental to retaining quality employees and undermines client relationships -- it is primed for an acquisition particularly when Dr. Goodnight passes.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Stop the promotion and retention of those in key management positions who have limited skills and could not function in any other environment, but SAS. Cease the morally bankrupt actions of many in executive positions. Be careful about dumping those over 40 years old.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  7. 1 person found this helpful  

    A place where careers go to die. Some see it and leave, others accept it and stay.

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    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    Employee benefits (day care, health, adoption) are above industry norm, almost all US-based employees have their own office, company closes during week of Christmas, you can obtain 4 weeks of vacation after 10 years (plus Christmas), Great place for young workers direct from college or young families. Very few employees ever work over 38hrs per week and the company promotes this regularly. Majority of perks in the Cary HQ office....

    Cons

    Are you a Type A personality and career driven? You'll leave in months or bow down before mediocrity. Salaries and bonus are far below tech industry average so SAS does not pursue industry top talent. The executives in R&D, marketing, sales have been there for 10+ years and no one will rock-the-boat or depart so upward mobility is non-existent. The 95% employee retention is not a benefit to be promoted, but curse to career growth. Majority of employees have no defined bonus plan/payout. Found it common to be offered 3x bonus working at IBM, HP, RedHat.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Set marketing, R&D, support on defined bonus plans of 15% of salary. Treat employees like adults and share details of revenues, profitability, cost structure. Beyond the most basic of 'sales' data no one knows if the company is another Enron in the making.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  8. 4 people found this helpful  

    Best Company to Work for??? It depends...

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    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 8 years)

    Pros

    Excellent business intelligence and analytics software products covering a wide range of industries and business areas. Excellent data management and data integration software. They have made some inroads into packaged business solutions for specifc industries such as banking and insurance, but they stil have some ground to cover. Great place to learn if you are willing to do it on your own.

    Cons

    Management is not in synch with corporate goals. Middle and senior managers tend to overly focus on their own team's objectives and expanding their teams, often at the expense of corporate objectives. There is a lack of real leadership in some areas and therefore silos abound and fleurish. Business solutions lack ease of use and documentation. The company lacks internal training programs. Consultants are pretty much left to learn on their own. Lastly, and unfortunately, if you are part of a minority group your chances of making it to middle management and actually keeping your job are very, very slim.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Realign your objectives with corporate.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
  9. 2 people found this helpful  

    Free peanuts but that's all you'll make

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Sales Manager in Baltimore, MD
    Current Employee - Sales Manager in Baltimore, MD

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    If you are at the Mother Ship at HQ and not in Sales, it's great
    Free peanut M&M's
    Great Sushi at the cafeteria in Cary

    Cons

    Cult like atmosphere in need of a re-boot
    If you're in Sales don't expect to make money.
    There is no Commissions dept, this is reviewed directly by CEO himself
    Dying company with stale technology
    Some of the worst Sales Mgt know to man

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    stay classy Baltimore

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  10. 4 people found this helpful  

    great place - only if you work in Cary

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    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Pay is adequate, benefits are good, job security is virtually guaranteed if a) you work at corporate, b) you don't make waves, and c) value internal politics over personal or unit productivity. Sense of urgency is an unknown concept in most units. This company and its culture would never survive in a public-company setting.

    Cons

    Senior management provides little leadership and less vision. CEO is a great technologist with no respect for how business gets done. Sales teams are regularly belittled in regular CEO videos. If you work for SAS outside of the corporate environment, you are looked upon as a 2nd class citizen at best. While company's loyal user base will provide a revenue cow to milk for a while, more nimble competitors will erode the fortunes of this one-trick pony.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Provide real management training for lower and mid-level managers.
    Demonstrate you really care about field employees.
    Work to eliminate pervasive 'politics first' MO in Cary.
    Hire senior managers who bring more to the table than being a FOG (Friend of Goodnight)
    Make it easy for Goodnight to retire, so a real CEO can bring real leadership to company.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  11. 2 people found this helpful  

    Don't believe the Hype

    • Comp & Benefits
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    • Senior Management
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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I have been working at SAS Institute

    Pros

    Solid financially, good vacation time, good job security, nice cafeteria, onsite healthcare, onsite gym, good if you have kids and can get them into daycare (based on seniority)

    Cons

    The benefits have been shrinking - greatly. If you are single then the pay and benefits are below what you would get elsewhere for the same work. The only benefit that I hear parents say that keeps them there is the daycare. Don't believe the 35 hour hype. That is only for people who are non-IT. If you are in IT it is a major pressure cooker. I am seeing lots of people leaving because they can get better work conditions and benefits else where. Little room for moving up. And difficult to move laterally unless you have been with the company for 20 years.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO

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