SAS Institute Reviews

Updated April 5, 2015
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  1. Helpful (2)

    If you're just looking for a place to retire from ... look no further.

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    Former Employee - R&D Developer in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - R&D Developer in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 5 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    Pros

    - various on campus amenities (not free like other big name IT, but more there for convenience)
    - good benefit designed around family with kids
    - good hours if you're not a developer

    Cons

    - little to no career growth
    - low comp, laughable raise and bonus
    - lots of politics, different groups under the same division sometimes won't cooperate for a common mission
    - R&D direction is ambitious, but unclear how it will carry out with severe lack of human capital to do everything on the book.
    - front-line managers tend to be micromanaging and doesn't assign work according to team member strengths but rather availability.
    - Most HR don't have the employee's best interest at heart, but SAS HR makes an effort to make sure short-term cost minimization comes before retaining valuable employees.

  2. Helpful (1)

    if you love politics more than your work this could be a heaven for you. You will grow super-fast.

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    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (more than 5 years)

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Recommends
    Positive Outlook

    Pros

    A great campus for employees with good cafeterias, gym, swimming pool, on-site child care and other facilities like ATM, postal service, healthcare clinic etc. Life is more manageable working in SAS.
    Lots of resources for learning and access to great R&D team is a huge plus being in Cary.

    Cons

    Top management is excellent but middle management sucks! It is like working in a group of dictators who are part of the company for at least 10 years and knows the best and care less about company's interest. Feeding their own ego comes before everything else. If you are a type A personality and you have to report to a manager who is below VP level this job might destroy you no matter how creative or how talented you are. However few departments are outside of it.
    In general salary is at least 15%-30% lower than the market.

    Advice to Management

    Drive your energy to the growth of the employees rather putting it to the politics. Remember that you are the torch bearer of the company. The glory of the company under Dr Goodnight's leadership is definitely at stake. Polluted environment of personal favor-ism is destroying employees' motivation slowly and silently just like a cancer.

  3. Helpful (1)

    In general is a good company but managers are not good. You can stay in the same position forever.

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    Former Employee - Project Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Project Manager in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 8 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook

    Pros

    The benefits are great. the campus and buildings are beautiful, good food in the cafeteria. People is friendly. the bad working environment is compensated by the benefits. Most employees have an office

    Cons

    Managers do not know how to manage. Most managers are promoted by friendship,
    If you are lucky your manager will leave you alone and you will do the work. But a lot of them are micromanagers
    There are a lot of politics in this company. You have to watch your back all the time
    If you have a problem with a manager, HR will not support you, They will look the other way

    Advice to Management

    An excellent developer does not mean he/she can be a good manager.
    HR must support all employees not just managers

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  5. Helpful (5)

    SAS and those who left it

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    Former Employee - Systems Developer in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Systems Developer in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than a year)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    Pros

    SAS in Cary, NC has a beautiful "campus" with great exercise options for lunch breaks. The people I worked with were for the most part nice and intelligent. The workload was acceptable. Benefits were good.

    Cons

    SAS pays you for 35 hours but I never worked less than 40, and usually 45 - 48. They have some managers who discriminate on age and gender. When you go to HR they are behind management. This HR scenario happened to me, as well as to 5 others working in my area, and we all left SAS within 2 years for other companies because of poor treatment. My manager did not like me exercising at lunch (he did not himself) and badgered me endlessly to stop until I complained to HR. I left and have never looked back at this privately held company. When I read how SAS is a #1 company, I smile wryly, as me and those who left it think otherwise.

    Advice to Management

    Dr. Goodnight needs to be more aware and active in listening to his employees.

  6. Helpful (4)

    All depends.

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    Current Employee - Operations in Cary, NC
    Current Employee - Operations in Cary, NC

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (more than 3 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    SAS is a great place to work depending on your goals. If you want work/life balance it is excellent. If you want career growth, it is awful.

    Cons

    No career growth.
    No training beyond how to do SAS things better.
    Very slow pace of change, if you are a dynamic employee you will hate SAS.
    Lots of people in mgmt. based on years of service as opposed to talent and work ethic.

    Advice to Management

    Train your people and find ways for them to grow in the company. With the growth of jobs in Cary your best employees are not going to sit around waiting for things to happen anymore.

  7. Helpful (6)

    A Wolf in Sheep's Clothing

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 10 years)

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO

    Pros

    Overall, this is a great company to work for and most of the people you work with are more than co-workers. Many of them become lifelong friends.

    Cons

    If you are a young female planning to have a baby or have young children already AND if you are fortunate enough to secure employment here, you will have it made in every sense of the word! I worked here and was successful for over 15 years. I did not have children nor was I planning to start a family any time soon. Nearly 100% of any time when "extra" time away from my home life was required or even working late regardless of the amount of time needed to meet a deadline or just get work done, a woman with children was ALWAYS given preference as well as excused in order to go to their child's dance recital, parent/teacher conference, pick up a sick child, or simply leave in order to pick up their child from day care. Don't get me wrong, all of these things are very important and must be done. However, people like me were ALWAYS taken fro granted and imposed upon by this particular group. Comments were constantly made like He will not mind working late because there is no one waiting on him or depending on him at home!" Or, one of the most aggravating of all, "I can't travel overnight for that event let alone for more than one night a week. He can (or should) go and he will not mind traveling over the weekend in order to get to the event location before Monday morning." The regular occurrence of situations like this week after week after week, quickly made this a bad and blatantly discriminating place to work!

    Advice to Management

    Don't just talk the talk but instead, walk the walk!

  8. Helpful (7)

    Not a Sales Driven Company

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    Former Employee - Sales Manager in Arlington, VA
    Former Employee - Sales Manager in Arlington, VA

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 3 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    Benefits
    Offices - company culture that most individuals get their own office
    Cary extras are unsurpassed - gym, massages, barber, medical facilities
    Great if you need child care for 3 children or less, even better off campus in a regional office - on campus there is a waiting list

    Cons

    Processes are set up based on a small company- not driven to accomplish sales in a timely manner. No documented process, seems like everyone assumes all workers have been there 10 years and just "know how things work"
    Technology is focused on addressing the needs of a few key customers who seem to keep the company in business.
    Spaghetti code is the least of the challenges
    Cary let's the field over sell and under deliver because there is no honest discussion about gaps in capability or performance
    No real bench-marking- wonder why a company of this size and maturity doesn't provide this type of data?
    Salaries are not competitive, even for NC, forget anywhere else
    Federal leadership is exceedingly poor and there is no "leadership" involved - no strategy- only politics and personalities
    Very poor treatment of women - many inappropriate relationships between high level managers / executives and other staff across the company- really bad in Cary.

    Advice to Management

    Technology, technology, technology - of this decade please
    Focus on good management practices not old boy politics and behavior
    Work on diversity! Most Caucasian work force ever!
    Remember that just because the company has a big name in NC, that the majority of your customers don't live there

  9. Helpful (3)

    Chaos reigns

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    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 10 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    Nice campus and benefits. Private offices.

    Cons

    R&D lacks a leader that is committed to all R&D employees and has a plan to transition the work focus in a sane and rational manner.

    Advice to Management

    Change the head of R&D.

  10. Helpful (7)

    A slow but accelerating decline

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Software Developer in Cary, NC
    Current Employee - Software Developer in Cary, NC

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (more than a year)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Approves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Approves of CEO

    Pros

    Benefits are still great and salary is competitive. The facilities are top notch and employee creature comforts are plentiful. Gym and cafes are nice and campus is beautifully manicured. Individual interactions are great.

    Cons

    Growth is slow compared to the market. Lots of challenges with old school management failing to adapt to new business and licensing models.

    Top R&D leadership is questionable due to perceived erratic behavior and decision making. Trust is a major concern. The hallways are filled with empty promises. Cliques and inner circles form "leadership teams" that hand down ideas from on high. There have also been borderline unprofessional statements made in public forums sniping at divisions and projects without direct knowledge -- obvious parroting from surrounding negativity that flows fluidly in the inner circle of leadership teams. Add a backdrop of organizational upheaval and it is a recipe for staff alienation, burn out and loss of productivity.

    If you're truly an innovator and cutting edge thinker that just wants to solve problems, this is not your place. Politics and negativity reign supreme in this aging aristocracy.

    Advice to Management

    Stabilize R&D. You have entire departments that are idling at the moment. Put leaders in place that don't play politics but instead get the job done. Get rid of the poisonous people that like to stoke the flames of negativity. Encourage long time middle and upper managers to retire or step aside to make room for new ideas and energy.

    Attract and retain younger talent. There has been a mass exodus of good young talent and leadership as of late. You are doomed to lose more if you do nothing. You don't even know who these people are yet because you have layers of aristocracy in place that prevent it. These people you are running off are the people that are going to eat your lunch because they are that good. You need to keep them to eat your competitors lunch or else the end of SAS will come on much more quickly than we ever realized.

  11. Helpful (7)

    Resting on its laurels, old reputation and marketing spin

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    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (more than 8 years)

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    The employees are phenomenally talented, bright and I miss them immensely. The benefits package, amenities and HQ campus environment are world class. The ability to make changes to process and challenge status quo is solid - change is generally embraced.

    Cons

    All that glitters is not gold. The outside world sees the media hype, but it is just another organization with flaws and its on the decline. The pay rates are inadequate when compared to others in the industry. Inconsistent standards from one division to another are morale busters. The lack of a clearly defined and communicated succession plan is detrimental to retaining quality employees and undermines client relationships -- it is primed for an acquisition particularly when Dr. Goodnight passes.

    Advice to Management

    Stop the promotion and retention of those in key management positions who have limited skills and could not function in any other environment, but SAS. Cease the morally bankrupt actions of many in executive positions. Be careful about dumping those over 40 years old.

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