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    “Education doesn’t always make you smarter… in point.”

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    Current Employee - Manufacturing Supervisor in El Paso, TX
    Current Employee - Manufacturing Supervisor in El Paso, TX

    I have been working at DISH full-time (more than 3 years)


    You have an opportunity to work with honest, humble, hard working people who show you on a day to day basis that you can be successful regardless of the level of education you have. Their unpretentious work ethic and efforts would make an excellent case study for someone’s Doctorate (Not Doctrine….big difference here). The thesis would be tentatively titled, “America was built by the working class…not the self proclaimed Elite.”


    It’s sad that we have people (a couple really) coming into the company that consider themselves immediately superior to everyone else due to their self proclaimed common sense, logic, reasoning, analytical skills and most importantly their vaunted education. What makes it sadder is the fact that they position themselves above others that have been in the company in some cases for 8+ years. And the logic for their forgone conclusion is based on three talking points:
    1.) These tenured employees obviously lack of education.
    2.) These tenured employees obviously lack the qualifications for their jobs because they don’t have a Doctorate (not Doctrine as indicated earlier, but of course you know that, since you are educated more than everyone else. If by any chance you don’t know the difference, I suggest using a layman’s dictionary which us common folk use.)
    3.) And lastly their erroneous supposition that those tenured employees have only progressed within the company due to the fact that they know someone in management or HR or because they benefit from extra privileges. God forbid these tenured employees have grown and advanced within the company because of their hard work, efforts, continued support and pride in what they do….can you imagine the horror if this were true…..gasps?????
    In most work places, you have tenured employees in areas of leadership, such as leads, supervisors and managers. And that is because they know the processes, they know the people, they know the product and because they’ve shown they have the right capacity and desire to lead where indicated. And yes, that means that at times, you will have those leaders evaluating the work of new employees both hourly and salaried. Logic normally dictates that a tenured employee will review and provide feedback to newer employees….is that concept too foreign to you?? But apparently, a recently hired individual feels he is being demeaned because they are being reviewed by someone who doesn’t have any common sense, logic , reasoning and analytical skills. And apparently they lack those skills because they don’t have that darned Doctorate (not Doctrine…just want to make sure we are clear on that concept.) I can only imagine the angst you must feel to receive feedback from someone that is beneath your station….oh the horror!!! But in all honestly, I don’t remember where in the book of life it states you can only gain those skills by having a degree or doctorate….because in all honesty most of those associates you so condescendingly look down on have more commons sense, logic, analytical skills and most importantly humility in their pinky finger than what you possess in your entire person.
    This in no way is directed to all those other people that have had the opportunity to advance their education. In fact, Dish commends and encourage all those that can take advantage of furthering their education and the company provides an excellent tuition reimbursement program that assists those that endeavor to follow that path. And fortunately, we have many highly educated associates that have joined the company and assisted us in our overall growth and success. But the glaring difference with them is that they never thought of themselves superior to others. They never came in expecting to be treated as royalty; they came in with the right mind set, humility and work ethic and they have aided in our success here in El Paso.
    Unfortunately, these other individuals find fault in uneducated associates because they don’t make any efforts to further their education. It’s amazing how a supposedly educated individual can’t comprehend that not everyone has the circumstances that allow them to pursue that endeavor. And it’s not because they are lazy, or have “simple minds” or because they feel that Dish “owes” them for their 8+ year commitment as implied by them. You should be thankful that you didn’t have any obstacles in pursuing your education without any major issues or interruptions; you’re either very lucky or just plain spoiled. You shouldn’t mock others because their circumstances don’t allow them to mimic you. Nor should you mock others who have taken longer to complete their “2 year degree” within a two year time frame. How conceited and petty you must be to not realize that most of those people have families, children, and extended families to care for along with other responsibilities that have played a part in completing their degrees. The importance here is they are in the process of completing their degree or that they complete that degree regardless of the time it took them, something that your “educated mind” clearly cannot comprehend. The people are not “blockers of real talent” as you put it. They are real people who have worked from the ground up and have persevered and not given up in attending to their work, their school and their other responsibilities. The only “blockage” here seems to be the apparent lack of oxygen and common sense going to your head and the excess amount of “inflated ego” that does seems to be flowing to your head.
    Charlie Ergen is a highly successful entrepreneur and business man who is intelligent, savvy but most importantly, humble and grounded by the roots of who he is. He founded this amazing company with his wife and Jim De Franco by selling dishes “door to door”. He poured his soul, sweat, blood and time into this company and made it what it is by recognizing and appreciating all those workers who toiled with him in the trenches. He has always led by example and never has he elevated himself over others because of his education or accomplishments. He credits his company’s success on those blue collared workers, who despite of a lack of an education or Doctorate, have grown, succeeded and moved up because of their humble and honest efforts. And the company will continue to grow because of the efforts of those who lead by example and efforts and not because of those who feel they are entitled to lead because of their elevated education or degree. This company will continue to grow because we have honest, humble workers, who lead by example and are not guided by narcissism, a diluted sense of entitlement and a strong inferiority complex as exhibited by others such as you.
    If you want to continue to elevate yourself over others because your Napoleonic complex go ahead but keep your condescending views to yourself. Endeavor to lead by example and not by entitlement. Put in the hours to show that you are capable of building up a sweat; don’t make a capital case because you have to work 45 hours….really 45 hours and you have a meltdown??? I guess you don’t want to work 45 hours because it may cause undue stress or over exertion and we wouldn’t want that since it might degrade your common sense, logic and analytical skills. If you truly value you education, then use it wisely and with a humble heart, don’t use it to elevate yourself over others, degrading those who don’t have your level of education. Manifest the positive side of it, not the side that will ostracize you amongst those you supposedly want to lead.
     If you do not change your ways, you will continue to put yourself on an ivory pedestal, thinking you are above all else. The sad truth is that eventually you are going to realize that the pedestal you have elevated yourself on so loftily is really not so high; in fact you will realize that it is as high as the thickness of the paper that your vaunted degree and doctorate are printed on. In the meantime, us other non “Edumacated” and “Edumacated” associates will continue endeavor to lead in making the El Paso facility successful and to continue in assisting all efforts to improve on all fronts in which improvements can be made. We are here for the people, not for our own self entitlement or recognition. Rest assured that whatever we may lack in your eyes, we more than make up for it in heart, body and mind. And that trumps any glossy paper you have hanging on your wall.
    On a side note: In the future, you may want to put more thought on your movie subject references. In the movie “Gremlins”, Gizmo was identified as a “Mogwai” which is the translation of a Cantonese word that means “monster”, “evil spirit”, “devil” or “demon.” With that said, I’d rather be a “Gremlin”, why? I would rather be an imaginary creature who creates mischief because bad habits, practices or behaviors can be eliminated as one learns, grows and matures. So in other words, we can change and have changed for the better. In your case, I really don’t see much hope with you, Gizmo……. 

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    There are truly genuine hard working people here at Dish; both tenured employees and newer ones that come in with the right mentality. Both groups endeavor to use all of their acquired skills and education for the continued growth of this company. No matter the criticism that a few disgruntled employees put forth, rest assured that the rest of the 99% of us will continue to work earnestly in our jobs, motivated by the continuing changes the company has put forth for the overall improvement of the company. We are here for the long haul and will continue to do so as long as the company continues to make improvements where possible and as long as they continue to show a genuine interest in our overall well being and future.

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