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Guardian Industries Luxembourg


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    Good if used as a stepping stone

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    Former Employee - Manager  in  Floreffe, PA
    Former Employee - Manager in Floreffe, PA

    I worked at Guardian Industries full-time for more than a year


    The Floreffe facility is very flawed for several different reason but its weaknesses can create great opportunity for some. Their unjustifiable polices on pay increases creates a revolving door of people, which can result in opportunity that wouldn't come at other companies. Guardian has a policy, which they not only admit to but actually brag about, in which they say "we don't pay the position, we pay the person." All that this means is that when you get a promotion, you don't get a raise. They will claim that once you prove yourself in the new job, the money will come..... but it never does. As a result qualified people who have moved up, quickly get frustrated for being under paid and leave to go to other companies. This then forces Guardian to promote people who are not as qualified but are willing to be under paid for the opportunity. However, once these people get some experience they become more valuable and are able to get better paying jobs at other companies. Then the cycle repeats.

    While this is a terrible strategy for being a successful company, it create opportunity to quickly move up and then get a much better job at another company once you get the experience you wouldn't get at a work place with stability. The lower line supervisor is the best for this if you are starting with little to no experience. The job is absolutely terrible, but the turnover is so high that there are always openings. If you can stick it out for a year it will pretty much be guaranteed that a shift manager position will open up, as these have very high turnover as well. At other manufacturing facilities it can take 10 years or more to get a shift manager spot where as at Floreffe, most have only worked there for 1-3 years. From this point you either see if something higher up opens up, or just get a great manager job at another company making 50% more money. It literally happens 2-3 times a year.

    The turnover goes all the way up the ladder too. In the last 3 years there have been 4 Hot end managers, 3 production managers, 4 sales managers, 3 HR managers and 2 plant managers. These are the highest positions in the plant....


    Opportunity is only there for managers and supervisors. If you are an hourly employee, run for the hills. It is a terrible work environment and chances are you will only stay there for a couple years. The same goes for engineers. There is very little opportunity for them to move up and they never stay with the company over 2 years. In fact 2 were hired out of Penn St and both quit in under a year.

    Make sure you negotiate a good starting salary because you will be stuck at this number until you quit. The job is also dangerous and everything in the plant is old and breaks down. Last year a guy lost his leg, and another got lung damage so bad he will never work again. If you work here, always keep it in the back of your mind that it is just a stepping stone. If you are looking for anything else, you will be disappointed.

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    I can't say much as I did what they all do. Use Guardian as a place to build the resume, then cash in at another company.

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