Airline Transport Professionals

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    Ok

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    Former Employee - Flight Instructor in Houston, TX
    Former Employee - Flight Instructor in Houston, TX

    I worked at Airline Transport Professionals full-time (more than a year)

    Pros

    Multi-engine time, high flight hours

    Cons

    No time off, low pay

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Don't force checkrides on people that aren't quite ready.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Positive Outlook
  2.  

    They do not appreciate their instructors or students.

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    Current Employee - Flight Instructor
    Current Employee - Flight Instructor

    I have been working at Airline Transport Professionals as a contractor

    Pros

    Flight time, multi time (New program is making the multi time limited)
    Lessons layed out.
    Don't need to recruit on your own.

    Cons

    You are an independent contractor. They do not care about you. You are disposable to them. Your personal cell phone and email will be bombarded from them daily wanting something from you but when you need to contact them good luck. They will literally call you back to back numerous times until you answer. No voicemails, just tons of calls like a crazy ex

    You only get paid for flight time and sim time. $7.50/hr and $800 retainer (busy location or not). Nothing for ground instruction they say you can make up to 3K a month not likely. Even on an extremely busy month you might get 2k. No taxes taken out since they won't consider you an employee (although they try to treat you that way) so enjoy tax season. Your also expected to deposit their money in the bank in a timely manner using your own time and transportation. Plane needs to be ferried somewhere? They won't pay you for that either. Webinars now required you to attend on your own time. Furniture needs to be moved from apartments or office, you might get a pizza.

    You technically make your own schedule although they expect you flying every day and working at 8am. If you want even a day off you have to get it approved, yes you still are not an employee. Aircraft are ok. Some are moldy, dirty and chipped up. They will try to make you fly planes that need maintenance to company facilities whether its legal/safe or not. If the engines start, they tell you to fly it. one student got stuck at an airport on his solo because the starter went out after a concern for the starter was reported right before that

    Standardization....nothing standard about it. You answer phones until they want to fly you, then go back to phones. They don't show u much, just expect you to somehow know what they want and do it perfectly while they scream at you and try to make you think your not worthy of the ratings you earned. That's your "guaranteed instructor job" if they don't like you, your gone. Housing has had known bed bug and sanitary issues. You'll share it with students also. No getting away
    Overall, never worked for a company that shows so little appreciation for the faces and money makers of their company as ATP.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Just saying you appreciate the instructors doesn't mean anything when you show that you don't. Try showing it for once.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
  3.  

    Good for a guy with zero dual given....but you can do better after 100 hours of instruction

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    Current Employee - Flight Instructor in Jacksonville, FL
    Current Employee - Flight Instructor in Jacksonville, FL

    I have been working at Airline Transport Professionals full-time (more than a year)

    Pros

    -Multi Time
    -Don't have to look for students
    -Small flexibility in schedule OCCASIONALLY.
    -Free RJ Course, easy to get time off for interview (because they want you gone)

    Cons

    -Low Pay... no, I mean really low.
    -Overworked, so much so that instruction and safety suffer.
    -MX can be very hard to deal with and small non-grounding issues are rarely if ever fixed and more serious sqwks are quickly and poorly fixed often times causing recurring issues.
    -Will fire at any time.
    -They try to push you out even though the industry is now moving toward the 1500 hour rule. Gone is the two months of instructing at ATP, mgt. seems to not understand this as many flight instructors are leaving for other instructing jobs, not airline gigs.
    -Can be placed anywhere in the country and moved once you hit your preferred location. Seniority does not matter.
    -Students review you after every check ride and are often angry off because of ATP's bad/overkill policy the front line instructor has to implement , then management scolds you over these reviews.
    -Management asking you to log time on more than one day, since you fly more than 8.
    -1/2 Days off a Month.
    -The 1500 hour rule will change their business no matter what they say. CFI's are having to stay longer than ever to reach minimums and management is coming up with new ways to fire them.
    -Standardization is terrible. Working the call center is bad.
    -Forced to push students into check-rides.
    -Have to deal with office issues, walk in's, FTD tourbleshooting, replacing aircraft battery, going to the bank, cleaning the office, exc.

    -You will have to sit around until 9PM to proctor written tests.

    -Ground Instruction is not paid.

    -I have never worked at a place where every time the phone range EVERY person working there thought it was the call to termine their servies. It was crazy. Mgt is intense.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Sundays should close the school, get students a day to study and instructors a day to rest and provide higher quality (less fatigued) instruction. A bad mishap is bound to occur, potentially costing human life serious damage to ATP's reputation. It could literally bring down this entire business.

    MX is a huge issue, fix the aircraft the right way the first time. These little 1-2 day half effort fixes that end up coming up and effecting training again and again costing 2-3x what it would have cost in the first place.

    End the job guarantee, students are too arrogant and bad instructors are making it out into the field training horrible applicants.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
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    Seniority is everything, get there first at atp. Make 20,000 a year at a regional airline!

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    Current Employee - Instructor in Jacksonville, FL
    Current Employee - Instructor in Jacksonville, FL

    I have been working at Airline Transport Professionals

    Pros

    If you would llike to become a pilot in todays economy, atp is a good place to work for total time in aircraft and multi engine time

    Cons

    You are considered an independent contractor. You do not know your schedule until the night before because someone makes it for you. Your schedule will change throughout the day. You ahve no representation or benefits. you may not be able to pay your taxes at the end of the year. You are not considered for a postion based on your number on the waiting list. You must instruct agains federal guidelines of discontinuance of flight instruction (for poorly performing students or students with psychological deficiencies). you will be asked to fly with broken equipment. You will be required to work 7 days a week. Management will usually work 4 days per week. you may have to relocate without a return date or indefinately. People who are in administration are not pilots or flight instructors. You will have prospective students arrive at your facility that are not on the schedule, unless they are spending money that day. Administration wants new students to have materials memorized but will not ship them to the student. You may have to stay after your assigned schedule to proctor a written exam. You may end up working 70 to 80 hours per week. you may be let go at a moments notice for no reason. Micromanagement does not know what actually happens at a facility, but only hears complaints from students. The company will try to have the instructor sell an overrated career to build seniority, but you will leave the program as an unemployed pilot.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Let instructors make their schedule or make them employees with some type of benefit, and may be a scheduled day off. Become a private pilot. Work 70 to 80 hours a week and 1400 a month after taxes to reevaluate your pay system.

    Doesn't Recommend

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