Allen Systems Group Reviews

Updated October 12, 2014
Updated October 12, 2014
151 Reviews
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Allen Systems Group President and CEO Art Allen
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Pros
  • ASG really is a low pressure place where you can have a decent work-life balance (in 6 reviews)

  • very good people that touch the customers (in 9 reviews)


Cons
  • In the US all but sales and the selected few are suffering a 20% pay cut for over 3 years (in 11 reviews)

  • The 4 day work week is okay but the work needing to be done is still a 5 day or more load (in 10 reviews)

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  1.  

    Terrible place to find a career

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    • Senior Management
    Former Employee - Major Account Manager
    Former Employee - Major Account Manager

    I worked at Allen Systems Group full-time (less than an year)

    Pros

    There were no pros that I consider worthy of mentioning.

    Cons

    MICRO-MANAGE EVERYTHING...They will call you daily to review what you did. There were also daily sales team calls to review activities. Never positive, always very negative.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Need more training and have to trust the people you hire to do the job required.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  2.  

    Does pay well

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I worked at Allen Systems Group

    Pros

    Beautiful office great owner. Located in one of the upscale expensive areas in the country. They have nice picnics and holiday parties.

    Cons

    Poor weak management. Lack of leadership growth and direction. High turnover

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Most employees have 2 or more jobs just to survive. Increase pay to market levels

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  3.  

    Has some great products, not enough resources to support them...

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Sales Manager
    Former Employee - Sales Manager

    I worked at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Good benefits, great technical support for sales force... World-class product managers.

    Cons

    Sketchy infrequent product training for sales force. Too many products. Not enough project managers.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    You have a lot of smart people in the company. Create a culture where new ideas and suggestions are considered.
    Innovation is likely to come from folks that have joined in the last 5 years. Sell off some of your products and use the proceeds to create awareness of your company.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
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  5. 2 people found this helpful  

    RUN AWAY!

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    • Senior Management
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    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee

    I worked at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    I worked with a few awesome people both in the remote office as well as at corporate. That's it.

    Cons

    A sampling of all the BS you have to look forward to should you decide to ignore all of these truths and go work for ASG ANYWAY: Pay is sub-par to market, Too many overpaid Executives brought on by the CEO, who is defiant and determined to undermine the very Board and Investment company he brought on to “save” his company. CEO is a "leader" alright..... and he is leading the company right in to bankruptcy. Every department there is a train wreck because all the smart people are leaving in droves, and the ones sticking around are completely cancerous and incompetent drones who are there only because they cannot find a job anywhere else in Naples FL! The company is approaching 30 yrs old and refuses to update their archaic rules and regulations to anywhere close to the 20th Century. Quotas are too high because no one wants to buy out-dated, non-competitive product. Oh…. that, and the fact that no one wants to do business with a company whose CEO/Founder tells the employees who to vote for, or if they chose the wrong person then the company will fold! That went viral on CNBC! That kind of “PR” coupled with no marketing, a “sales support” staff who is more like Sales Prevention, understaffed on Presales Engineers and Product Development, and the saddest excuse for sales management I have ever seen all make it next to impossible to generate interest let alone go through the 12-18 months OR MORE it takes to try to sell something there. Let’s not forget the “Expense Nazi” who makes it her job to try any which way NOT to reimburse you for business related expenses if you have any reason to travel for your job. What a complete disaster……no wonder their credit rating is continually getting downgraded. Sooooo glad I left when I did.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Not that management will listen....because they just don't.....they truly believe they know everything. But if there was any piece of advice they listened to it would be sell off everything that is not cloud related and start all over. Get rid of anyone who has been with the company for longer than 10 yrs, replace with fresh people who have fresh ideas THAT RESULT IN NET NEW REVENUE AND LOGOS! Re-Tool your entire sales force, rebuild a marketing organization and for God's Sake......give it time to do it's job and show results. Oh.....and Mr. A (he "commands" to be called Mr Allen!).....stop Bilking money from the company. Ride a commercial plane like the rest of your underpaid worker bees!

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  6.  

    Start looking for a job now..refresh your skills

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Engineer in Denver, CO
    Former Employee - Engineer in Denver, CO

    I worked at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    Job was not stressful. The technology was dated. You will just get more work as more employees get laid off. Loyalty at this company will eventually earn you a pink slip. The company keeps getting worse and worse financially. Eventually it will be your turn. I knew the company was doing bad and eventually would get the slip. But now that I think back, it's better to just take the initiative to move on than to have it suddenly forced on you one day. Refresh you resume every few months..especially for those of you that have been there 10+ years (yes, there is a lot of them). You will not remember what you did 10 years ago. Back up your code/files for reference, because when you get the boot, you won't get a chance to.

    Cons

    Technology is old. No 401k matching. No raises. Never liked having to clock in and clock out! We are not children.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Sell the company to save the current employees grief.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  7.  

    Quality Assurance Analyst Intern

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    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Quality Assurance Analyst Intern in Purchase, NY
    Current Employee - Quality Assurance Analyst Intern in Purchase, NY

    I have been working at Allen Systems Group full-time (less than an year)

    Pros

    Great company to work for with a great atmosphere and people

    Cons

    There is only one intern working. I think it would benefit greatly if there was more than onbe intern so we could use each other to bounce ideas and discuss what we have learned

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Hire more interns. The collegues here are extremely good with interns and can teach alot

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  8. 1 person found this helpful  

    ASG is what you make it

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Account Executive in Columbus, OH
    Current Employee - Account Executive in Columbus, OH

    I have been working at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    Trust in Sales force, flexibility in making a deal work for a given company. There is no micro-managment of sales people. You get to run your territory like your own "business". Large customer base makes getting appointments for sales calls pretty painless. A large number of mature enterprise products and the ability to be the "low cost" alternative to CA, IBM, BMC can help ASG to win addtional business.

    Cons

    If you need a lot of coaching, and managment, this not the place for you. The debt issues is a concern, since this is a private company it is diffucult to determine why ASG debt has piled up. I suspect that executive pay has been out of line with performance of the company.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Get rid of EAS group and have sales do the job.

    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  9. 7 people found this helpful  

    Sinking ship

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Systems Engineer in Naples, FL
    Current Employee - Systems Engineer in Naples, FL

    I have been working at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    The weather in Naples is great. There's plenty to do, it's not too far to Ft. Meyers and if you're into boating, this is a great place. Take your boat over to Marco Island and grab some lunch on your 3 day weekend.

    Cons

    Finally have AA's Jet For Sale, Seriously. After forcing everyone into a 4 day workweek, violating loan covenants and having their credit rating downgraded to almost worthless grade, Art had to give up his prized toy a custom built Gulfstream 550 Jet. (Google up Gulfstream 550 jet for sale -look for NC860AA and you can see why the employees needed to take a 20%/4 day work week) - While Rome burned, the CEO was fiddling at 40 thousand feet for months on end. This was a "pro" since life in naples is much nicer when he's out of town and not micro-managing the day to day and venting his anger at things like losing his toys. Inept management at the next level keep the zoo a happy place in a paradise like setting. It's Naples FL ! C'mon) 4 day work week but if you can afford a 20% cut! you have 3 days a week to go boating. Keep your head down and you'll keep your job. Easy-piezy.

    Even the changes that the new board has forced on the company won't un-do the damage to employee morale, outdated legacy products that we don't support properly or a cloud strategy that "literally has its head in the clouds". There's no-one left to buy and pillage, putting the Jet up for sale just mad him angry and he takes it out on the minions. The senior management are hanging in by their fingernails - they couldn't get a job, at this point, anywhere in the industry so it's ASG to the end and pray for parachute (not likely) or milk every dime you can while you're there. This is truly a sad, sad place.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Why bother, no-one is listen ending (and yet there's always someone watching at ASG), they can and do pinpoint your location in the building and you will get beat up for too much time in the bathroom of a late lunch or coming in 5 minutes late. Sell the company and put buyout packages in to the deal for long term employees.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  10. 3 people found this helpful  

    Better Odds for Success at a Casino

    • Comp & Benefits
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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Field Sales Executive in Nashua, NH
    Former Employee - Field Sales Executive in Nashua, NH

    I worked at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    The corporate HQ's in Naples, FL is resort-like. On-boarding is top notch and all the worker bees are some of the best people and top talent I've ever worked with.

    Cons

    The go-to-market strategy and KPI's say it all. Sales are driven by a 5-5-15 Business as Usual plan (existing customers, expired/lost customers, and new logo) that is monitored daily via a neat looking HTML report card that lights up red, yellow, or green. A significant percentage of the metrics (~ 80%) are weighted to the "existing" customers. Normally, that's a good thing - one might think. The problem just begins here; most customers (4/5) will not take calls (phone or meetings). But you haven't even begun your new career at ASG yet and you'll have to generate 32 meeting/month (remember the scorecard) - it's "RED." Oh...and what about the 5 lost customers you say? Well, they ran a long time ago for varied reasons and have told the other 15 "new logo" accounts you are working so diligently to acquire why the "new" ASG is as bad as the "old" ASG.

    I won't go on to reiterate the litany of negative commentary that follows: EXTREEMELY HIGH employee turnover, zero marketing, zero Gartner/Forrester MQ reports, understaffed and overworked resources, antiquated products, poor customer support, no customer references, and failing credit rating.

    When you get laid-off (and YOU will), you'll quickly be reminded of and realize the two-year non-compete contract you signed when you began your ASG "career" is the second biggest mistake you even made.

    If you like hundred-to-one odds of making quota, go to Vegas where you'll be luckier.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Shut down and retool. When you realize the days of being a product reseller - bilking customer's for high maintenance fees...and getting rich at the top are over, aspire to be a software solutions company. And the money will follow.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
  11. 2 people found this helpful  

    Don't be fooled, this company is a disaster. RUN!!!

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    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Management in Naples, FL
    Current Employee - Management in Naples, FL

    I have been working at Allen Systems Group full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    There are still some good people trying to make a difference at the company but the legacy management team runs them quickly out. I am still currently at ASG and I can tell you that I like my boss, I like my job, and I like the peers I work with.

    Cons

    The Senior executive team is so detached from the front lines that it continue to make poor decisions with a lack of concern for its employees. The company constantly looks for ways not to pay its employees and its vendors. The Operations team nit picks every deal and decides who should get paid and who shouldn't. If you are successful they change your comp plan on the fly. They constantly change comp plans. The accounting organization looks to find ways not to reimburse you for expenses. The back office team is so resistant to helping others there is an overwhelming sense of complacency throughout. Most importantly, If you are in sales, ASG plans to only pay your base salary, commissions are paid after the customer pays the invoice. Chances are you are walking into an empty account set and there is no existing business that ASG plans to pay you on. You can ride that out but the average sales cycle is 6 months. Base salary for a year and that's if you can stand it.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Stop hiring SVPs for FY17 plans and invest in marketing, front line sales, training and product development. The products are aging, and your sales team has been a revolving door because you refuse to pay them commissions and all you want to do is blame the front line. When countless front line people come and go and your company still is bleeding revenue, its about time that you look at the top.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

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