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Adobe – “Was Once a Great Place to Work Then OK and Now On It's Way to the Bottom of the Barrel

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Oct 9, 2009

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Adobe Senior Computer Scientist in San Jose, CA:   (Current Employee)

Pros

At one time Adobe was a great innovative company. There are still some technically challenging and interesting projects to work on if you are in one of the right groups. A lot of smart people to work with and in some areas leaders in the field.

Cons

Management is perpetually confused and running back and forth with yet a new direction every other year and in the years between complete new directions they change the way that they are implementing the direction they chose last year. Employees have to be very careful of what projects they are working on when the direction changes or you'll be out the door in the (almost) annual Christmas layoff.

Benefits continue to be cut to the point that there is no longer any guaranteed paid time off but only a possibility of a couple of weeks at the discretion of your manager (no accrual, no guarantees, no liability if you leave or are laid off).

There is no consistency in promotions and a number of managers run their own little fief-doms where they implement their own promotion policies (i.e. promoting women only).

Advice to Senior Management

Choose a direction for the company and really commit to it.

Decide whether employees are a valuable asset to the company or a nuisance rather than saying they are the former and treating them like the latter.

Comments (4)

Oct 24, 2009

by ex Adobe Product Manager:

> no liability if you leave or are laid off
>
By law, when you leave you have to get paid by your last working day for your unused PTO. Adobe starts you out at 24 days.
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Oct 24, 2009

by Original Poster:

> By law, when you leave you have to get paid by your last working day for your
> unused PTO. Adobe starts you out at 24 days.

Under the old system that was true. I see that you are an ex-Adobe employee so you didn't get the emails and the presentation from HR on the changes. Current Adobe executives are undoing all the employee-friendly socially progressive policies put into place by the founders of the company, Chuck and John.

In the new system which goes into effect Dec 1st 2009 there are no longer any guaranteed PTO days. You will be able to take 2-3 weeks per year at the approval of your manager but you may not get any. This new time off system has no accrual and no guarantees. US law does not guarantee any employees any amount of time off. Adobe will be paying out the balances of any unused PTO time under the old system when this change goes into effect.
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Oct 31, 2009

by Adobean:

You're forgetting the 2 weeks of PTO we get for Christmas and July 4th and 10 sick days/year. I don't love the new vacation policy either but let's be real about what we're getting and not getting.
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Nov 6, 2009

by Another Adobean:

2 to 3 weeks on the whim of your manager is not the same as 5 to 6 weeks (ok 24 to 29 days) with accrual under the old system. Sure there are a couple of extra days tacked onto holidays in the summer (4th of July) and XMas but that also is not the same. A forced week off around the 4th of July is mostly useless to almost everybody. Sick days don't count as vacation either - everybody gets them at every company and many have unlimited with no pool of 10 days.

I was willing to put up with all the other crap going on at Adobe because we had good vacation but this change is really the last straw. This has removed the last thing that was holding me in place and I know I'm not the only one. The original poster had it right - this sure isn't the old Adobe where employees were partners with the company.
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