Plante Moran

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Plante Moran Reviews in Chicago, IL

Updated November 3, 2014
Updated November 3, 2014
69 Reviews
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69 Reviews
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Plante Moran Firm Managing Partner Gordon Krater
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Review Highlights

Pros
  • Work-life balance is highly promoted within the firm which makes work enjoyable (in 13 reviews)

  • Great people, great culture, very caring, and recognizes me as an individual - not a number (in 6 reviews)


Cons
  • When you attempt to regain your work/life balance they'll fire you (in 5 reviews)

  • Long hours which is standard for this industry (in 7 reviews)

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  1.  

    A good place to work

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time

    Pros

    Plante Moran truly cares for their employees- you won't feel like you're just a number. The pay is fair, and the benefits are excellent. Most people working there are friendy and willing to help. There is a lot of room for career development and advancement. Overall, it's a great corporate culture.

    Cons

    As with any big firm, there are some administrative processes that seem unnecessary.

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  2. 4 people found this helpful  

    Culture Needs Improvement

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    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Staff in Chicago, IL
    Former Employee - Staff in Chicago, IL

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    Nice, modern office in Chicago. Somewhat flexible work hours with option to occasionally work from home. Everyone gets a laptop with remote access. Some really nice and smart people work here and people work hard. Some really great Partners who are good at sharing their knowledge, acknowledging hard work, and mentoring others. Internal training opportunities. Some fun firm events for everyone to enjoy. They offer a lot of free meals for practice staff during busy season, and free babysitting on required Saturday's during busy season. Pretty good internal communication of important news. The firm's managing partner writes a blog which is very informative and uplifting.

    Cons

    Very political environment; success here will mean forming alliances with important people who are either in a certain influential clique or well-aligned with important people. It's kind of like the show "Survivor". Form your alliances early, find out who the big influencers are, and get on their good side immediately. Even if you don't perform in your job, you will be safe if you are "in" with the right people and go along with whatever they say and never question anything. Make sure you start "drinking the kool aid" immediately and don't ever stop while employed here.

    From the first day I started, staff members were constantly being labeled and judged, such as "this person is great", "this person is terrible", "this person is never going to make it." There were stigmas attached to people that seemed to be formed by rumors and gossip and not by the person's true performance or value to the firm. As a new hire, this was alarming.

    Be wary of expressing an opinion or idea that is different than the firm's established practices, even if you are just trying to be helpful or share a best practice you've used in the past. This is frowned-upon and seems to be viewed as a threat.

    The "jerk-free culture" marketing tagline is not very accurate. I definitely met some difficult/unkind people here, some with big attitude who were quite rude and condescending. Some big egos at the Partner and management level really ruin the jerk-free culture myth. It's commonly known who the "jerks" are, but they get away with their behavior because either they are a strong technical resource or they produce a lot of revenue (or they are in a clique that protects them).

    Certain staff members within HR are hard to trust. Certain members of HR were very gossipy, cliquish, competitive, cutthroat, and in some cases, immature. If you are not "in" with someone in one of the main cliques in HR, you should be careful in trusting them with information you share about anything at all. Be very wary of expressing interest in another job within the firm other than your current job. HR also basically runs the firm and has a lot of power and influence. If HR decides someone doesn't fit in or fit the "standard Plante Moran profile", they will communicate that to several people and go out of their way to make the person's life as difficult as possible. Even if you are productive and achieving goals, you can be forced out if HR doesn't like you or believe you fit the "profile."

    Pay seems lower for audit and tax staff than at other large competitor firms in Chicago, especially at the manager and above level. The high cost of living in Chicago doesn't seem to be taken into consideration. HR runs the compensation process and it is a somewhat old-fashioned and antiquated process; very little room for negotiation means losing some good potential hires.

    Overall, a strong foundation for greatness is present here, but the culture is made weaker by office politics, gossip, rumors, cliques, some unkind and insensitive people, favoritism, lack of flexibility in how things are done, and some unreasonable expectations. There's been a lot of recent turnover, and these factors probably have a lot to do with it.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Reconsider the use of the "Jerk-Free Culture" tagline. It seems a bit silly to use the word "jerk" all over the web site and it's also not entirely true. Consider addressing the office politics, cliques, gossip, labeling of staff members, and reconsider who is making important decisions. Perhaps offer some training about employee engagement, inclusion, respecting diversity and different viewpoints, and what it truly means to treat everyone with respect and equality. Stop letting HR completely run the firm and take a look at the cliques who ruin morale. Look at compensation for tax and audit in Chicago to ensure it is competitive beyond the campus recruiting level. Take a look at why there has been an increase in turnover in recent months.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  3. 6 people found this helpful  

    Started well. Promises made. Promised broken. Framed for someone else's mistake. Fired.

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Senior IT Audit Consultant in Chicago, IL
    Former Employee - Senior IT Audit Consultant in Chicago, IL

    I worked at Plante Moran full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Paid me a salary for 6 years.

    Cons

    Politics. Lots of it. Backbiting. Lots of it. Lies. Lots of them. Fluff mottos (work like balance...jerk free etc etc). Lots of travel. Reimbursement after you jump through hoops. Middle management is typical of a top heavy company (good ol boys club).

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Be real. Listen to what the employee wants, not what you want to hear. Stop playing games, it's our lives and careers you are messing with.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO
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  5.  

    Great place for temporary work

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    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Contract Attorney in Chicago, IL
    Former Employee - Contract Attorney in Chicago, IL

    I worked at Plante Moran as a contractor (less than an year)

    Pros

    The staff is great - very professional but approachable. Scheduling is typically very flexible, but it depends on the project/client. Old facilities were cramped and outdated, but the company has moved to a brand new space in the Loop.

    Cons

    It's temporary work, so you never know when it will end or when the next project will begin. Communication with staff between projects is minimal, and when you get a call for a new project it usually starts the next day. This is somewhat typical for contract work, but it is difficult to deal with at times.

    Recommends
    No opinion of CEO
  6.  

    Great place to work !

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    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Information Technology in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Information Technology in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (less than an year)

    Pros

    So far so good on the "relatively jerk free" environment. Management is very accessable. Great concern for advancing and growing as an individual within the firm.

    Cons

    Long hours. On-call periods. Mandatory Saturdays during busy season.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Keep up the good work.

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  7.  

    A great place to work!

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    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Entry Level Staff in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Entry Level Staff in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    The culture and environment in the office is great. They say it's "relatively jerk free" and they mean it - I enjoy all of the people I work with which makes working in accounting much more enjoyable. They really care about their employees and their success.

    Cons

    Busy season - but what accountant wouldn't have busy season?

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  8. 3 people found this helpful  

    In Charge

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    • Senior Management
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    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Tax In Charge in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Tax In Charge in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    Growing business in chicago. People are good work with. work-life balance is actually there in the summer/off busy season.

    Cons

    Extremely stingey with promotions and poor management over all.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Get more involved in staff and recognize who wants to be there and who doesn't.

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  9. 5 people found this helpful  

    Not From Michigan? Good luck...

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    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time

    Pros

    - work with some good people
    - good client base

    Cons

    As voiced in some other reviews, decisions are made from a very centralized management that does not take into consideration that there is actually a world outside of the suburbs of Michigan. The firm likes to promote its "no jerk policy" by shoving it down your throat.

    No opinion of CEO
  10. 5 people found this helpful  

    If you're not from Michigan, you're not valued!

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Tax in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Tax in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Some nice coworkers and some great clients. Great for first three years of experience but then need to go elsewhere.

    Cons

    When interviewing, they say 2400 average work hours....try 2600 if not more. It's all political favorites and if you are from a merged in firm, you are seen as inadequate as compared to original Michigan p&m hires. Management (all Michigan originals and majority - over 90 percent men) act like Michigan area is the only area that can produce higher thinking individuals. Management transfers in there buddies and they are made equity partners within one year of transfer - even though they don't have a local network or book of business to support partnership......but they are from Michigan. Focus and choice is sold in proposals and Interviews but only a select few get to truly practice focus and choice. High billing rates but low low salary once reach in charge level and up. Save the money to pay partners and dangle the carrot for others who work 2500-2600 hours and receive less than 100grand because they don't make charge hour requirements.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Due to the favoritism and horrible salaries, the firm keeps poor performers with less technical abilities and loses the performers who put their clients and the firm ahead of their own best interests. Management follows what the big 4 does but pays like a small community single CPA size firm. Do the analysis so you retain some talent instead of settling for mediocre.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  11. 2 people found this helpful  

    Not what I signed up for

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    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Audit Staff in Chicago, IL
    Current Employee - Audit Staff in Chicago, IL

    I have been working at Plante Moran full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    From the audit perspective, you get the autonomy, in general, to get your work done. Can be pretty flexible.

    Cons

    HR runs this company. Got taken off my jobs to "give others hours". Do not consider those who have built a relationship with a client to stay on those jobs. Would rather give to those with specific title.

    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO

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