Spirit AeroSystems

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Spirit AeroSystems Reviews

Updated December 15, 2014
Updated December 15, 2014
126 Reviews
2.9
126 Reviews
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Review Highlights

Pros
  • Good benefits, including tuition reimbursement (got an MBA paid for) (in 15 reviews)

  • The company has traditionally provided good pay and excellent benefits (in 10 reviews)


Cons
  • Job stability and decision making from upper management seemed way off (in 10 reviews)

  • Senior Management was not upfront and truthful to their employees (in 4 reviews)

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  1. 1 person found this helpful  

    Interesting design and development engineering work

    Former Employee - Knowledge Based Engineer in Wichita, KS
    Former Employee - Knowledge Based Engineer in Wichita, KS

    I worked at Spirit AeroSystems as an intern (less than an year)

    Pros

    I worked as a Knowledge Based Engineer Intern one summer at Spirit Aerosystems. I was given challenging assignments even as an intern.

    Cons

    My assignments were challenging and helped me develop to the engineer I am today. It was everything I could hope for and more. There were no cons.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Continue valuing your interns and giving them great work assignments. It will help draw talent to the company.

  2. 1 person found this helpful  

    Good place to start for bigger opportunity

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Stress Engineer in Wichita, KS
    Current Employee - Stress Engineer in Wichita, KS

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    Flexible work hours, good work-life balance, same Boeing engineering & operation under different name, Learning opportunity, Helpful team work environment, good salary & health insurance, 401K

    Cons

    Hate to walk over the 2 storied high over pass every morning, parking, no good food cafeteria, no sunlight enters the office space, almost no bonus, less chance of career growth.
    Some of the co-worker seem too professional.

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  3.  

    Project Management

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Project Management in Kinston, NC
    Former Employee - Project Management in Kinston, NC

    I worked at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    The pay was / is negotiable, and amicable in amount. The hours were flexible and easily accommodate a balanced home and work life. Mid-level management seek continuos improvement in most areas; lean process' are rigorously taught.

    Cons

    Job stability and decision making from upper management seemed way off. 3 director level managers in one year pretty much tells a story. Hiring of engineers and relocation packages, only to face layoff within a years time indicates poor planning and poor foresight. Communications are poor between senior management and lower level staff creating much undue tension and stress.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Provide stability for your employees and you will be able to retain quality employees. Improve communications.

    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
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  5. 1 person found this helpful  

    Like my job

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Kinston, NC
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Kinston, NC

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    The ability to build something few companies are
    The business unit has a lot of opportunities for job growth
    Close to thirty paid days off at hire
    Very clean & climate controlled

    Cons

    Start pay needs to be better
    To much overtime

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    I believe for the most part first level managers are well aware of the cons and do as much as they can,
    but above that they are too far removed from the floor to understand or care. As much as they may say they do changes do not take place hiring new people is sluggish training programs for new hires are not in place morale is low and workers want more time with families.

    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  6. 1 person found this helpful  

    A great aerospace company to work for

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Composite Mechanic in Wichita, KS
    Current Employee - Composite Mechanic in Wichita, KS

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    It is a large company that has a large union, good pay for the industry (although certainly not the best in the industry), and good benefits like paid sick time and vacation plus some of the best medical benefits in town.

    Cons

    Management sometimes has a lack of respect towards their employees, good ideas from people on the floor are often never implemented even if they are cost-saving and would improve quality, The union that participates in this company has lost almost all their power over the years and has very little influence anymore.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    My advice to any upper management would be work closer with your guys on the floor, get with your first level managers and work closer with the guys on the shop floor, because those are the guys making the products, you need to talk with them to understand what we need to do to improve quality and cost performance.

    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  7. 1 person found this helpful  

    Great, but don't expect cutting edge management

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Engagement Manager in Wichita, KS
    Current Employee - Engagement Manager in Wichita, KS

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than 5 years)

    Pros

    Great benefits with numerous opportunities to move within the company. Long term security for many.

    Cons

    Numerous changes in management strategy causes numerous layoffs. Technology and strategies are outdated and very not keeping up with advances in technology.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    IT management has outsourced, but not been able to successfully utilize the resources fully.

    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO
  8.  

    Enjoyed my time

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Kinston, NC
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Kinston, NC

    I worked at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than an year)

    Pros

    Excellent team atmosphere, proud of the product, good salary

    Cons

    Can take lots of time to complete projects, a lot of people can get involved on the simplest of things

    Recommends
    No opinion of CEO
  9. 3 people found this helpful  

    Fast Pace, challenging work environment

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Management in Wichita, KS
    Current Employee - Management in Wichita, KS

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    Lots of good people that care about the products we build

    Cons

    Long hours, lack of consistency at times

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Spend more time with those on the floor to really understand what is going on

    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  10.  

    Be sure to do your due diligence before joining

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - External Reporting (Formerly) in Wichita, KS
    Current Employee - External Reporting (Formerly) in Wichita, KS

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than 10 years)

    Pros

    To start, I will have some negative things to say about Spirit, but I want to keep it real because I know it sucks taking a job then finding out that it is not a good fit. I actually recommend working at Spirit if you go in with open eyes, ensure that the culture in your department will be a good fit, and ensure that the manager will be a good fit for you.

    Pros:
    Great pay (probably the highest in Wichita), standard benefit package for the area. Flexibility of start time, time off, flex time, lunch breaks, etc depends on manager. Be sure to talk to manager and current or former employees separately to gauge if the manager's policies on those items would fit you. in some areas those work great and are a good perk, in others areas they have driven people to quit. There is potential for moves to other departments after a while to get experience in other areas (just don't expect vertical moves).
    Some great leaders and very talented individuals in various areas, good opportunities to learn from them (if you are in an area where you can work with them, some managers will deal with leadership directly and not let analysts go to meetings with them.)
    In many areas there are great opportunities to make changes and improvements and really make a difference (just make sure it is an area with a manager who encourages that.) Great coworkers, standard office working environment, and usually an 8-5 schedule. There can be cyclical overtime (50 hours/week) in some areas, a lot (60-70 hours/week) in others (but if you are in accounting/finance you probably expect that). Currently over a certain number of hours per week overtime is paid for even salary (nonmanager) workers at straight time.
    The company has some new aircraft programs and a stable backlog that should provide steady revenue for years. If costs can come down there is probably profit potential (be careful that your role would not be one of the 'costs' to be cut).

    Cons

    Lack of growth potential in finance/accounting. Over time your salary will increase due to annual raises, but you will essentially do the same work. Then management realizes they have people making a lot of money doing work that someone making much less could do and they lay those people off.

    Management strength varies. There are some great managers who are good mentors and will help you grow personally and professionally. However, some areas have micro-managers who will isolate you from contact with other management above them so they can control the information flow to you and from you. The external reporting/SOX manager is a definite micromanager like that. Some managers like her have a track record of lying or bending the truth in an interview or one-on-one situations with their employees then telling their senior management something different, even blatantly throwing their employees under the bus. Be sure to ask to speak with current and former employees (obviously those still with company) separately from the manager before accepting a job in Spirit external reporting, accounting or finance (if they will not accommodate that it should be a red flag to stay away from that manager). Be sure to talk to enough employees that you get a good feel that the hiring manager's management style and/or department policies (which can and often do differ from official HR policies), are a good fit for you. Also would be a good idea to validate anything the manager told you in the interview about department plans, changes, etc with the employees before signing up because unfortunately there are some bad apples like the one that was in external reporting.

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    You cannot change Boeing culture with career Boeing employees. Good new strategy and vision from current C-level, but those tasked with implementing it are the same ones who made a career of doing it the old way. At the lowest levels employees are aching for change, it is the middle levels that are lagging behind. If you get the same analysis or lack thereof, or same charts that you don't like it is middle management causing that, not incompetence of the accountants or analysts. There is a group of 'yes' men and women who get the orders from C-level and try to implement without fully understanding or being on board with the vision and strategy. They direct their staff to do something or do not want them to change the current finance format, charts, reports, etc. so things stay the same.

    It would be nice to actually see the CEO, CFO, or other C-level person go down to the worker bee floor and walk around and talk to people. Part of strategy should be creating an engaged workforce and you cannot do that by staying on the second floor all the time. People will buy in more if you seem real to them, which means not just a meeting with 500 people in the auditorium but making an effort to walk around and talk to people once a week or once a month (office people, not just factory people.) You just might get the scoop on what is really going on because those people want to be engaged and make improvements, they are just not given the venue.

    Office culture is pretty conservative, no Google culture here (may be pro or con). There is a diversity team, but I think it just means they will try to hire more non-whites and women. Try making your diversity team diverse by including people of various ages and experience levels. Including just managers and above or just those 'high performers' selects a non-diverse population. Include some interns, new hires, people with 3-4 years experience that are non-mangers, etc and you will be surprised with the ideas they come up with.

    There is really no growth potential at Spirit. In finance or accounting there are literally 150 people or more with 15+ years of experience doing the same job. And they are great at it. Some have moved laterally, some have not. Most have not moved vertically because there are no opportunities to do so. Review the manager roles that have been filled in the last year. Almost solely in finance they have been external hires. Not because all 200+ people in finance are incapable of being managers, though some are, but because there were no experienced people able to step into a manager role. And why no experienced people able to step into a role? Because they have no opportunities to manage others, no manager training program, no management development program, no formal plan to grow internal management talent from the analyst level to the manager level. Obviously not everyone can become manager, but I knew several who should have but were passed over for promotion because the company did not want to invest in training and developing them (several left to take management jobs at other companies). There is a succession plan program but it seems ineffective in finance, with no successes that I am aware of. Granted there are some exceptions of people who get promoted but it is their ability to work the good old boy network on their own and/or threaten to leave rather than a proactive career growth plan by the company. I understand that it is a buyers market in Wichita with entry level finance managers with a lot of supply so Spirit can just dump managers who are not 100% effective rather than truly develop them and hire someone new externally, but that is a recipe for disaster in the long term. I know several people in both Wichita and Tulsa who left the company to take management jobs elsewhere because there was no growth potential for them at Spirit.

    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    Approves of CEO
  11.  

    Good, easy work in a climate controlled building

    • Comp & Benefits
    • Work/Life Balance
    • Senior Management
    • Culture & Values
    • Career Opportunities
    Current Employee - Structure Mechanic in Tulsa, OK
    Current Employee - Structure Mechanic in Tulsa, OK

    I have been working at Spirit AeroSystems full-time (more than 3 years)

    Pros

    Easy aviation manufacturing work, the majority of which is done in a climate controlled building. Union labor

    Cons

    The tuition reimbursement program could use some help at the sister locations. Union Labor

    Advice to ManagementAdvice

    Management is doing ok as of now

    Recommends
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

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