Why You Shouldn’t Wait to Broach the Salary Topic

In real estate sales, the conventional wisdom is that the person who mentions money first, loses – or at least is at a disadvantage during the negotiation. The same notion has been bouncing around the job-search advice-o-sphere for years, but here it doesn’t fit so well. It’s easy to see that if a job-seeker doesn’t bring up the salary topic at some point during the job interview process, he or she stands to be in a bad position when a low-ball job offer is extended. That’s one of the most disappointing experiences imaginable. “We love you, we think you’d be great for our team – does (shockingly low/insulting salary figure) work for you?”  We can’t afford to spend all that time in a stressful interview process only to realize at the last second that the employer has no intention of paying us what we’re worth. We’ve got to get some numbers on the table. But how and when do you broach this sticky topic?

My suggestion is to wait until a second face-to-face interview, or to broach the salary topic when an email message or phone call arrives to invite you for a second interview. That’s when you can say “That’s great – I’d love to come back and meet more of the XYZ team members. Just so that we’re not wasting anyone’s time, shall we synch up on compensation now?” When we open the topic, we can expect a screener or hiring manager to come back with “So, what were you earning on your last job?” We don’t have to share our last salary level – although if that number suits you and is in line with what you believe this new job should pay, feel free to spit it out. Lots of people don’t want to share their past salary, usually because it wasn’t representative of the salary trajectory they’d been following up to that point. Maybe they worked for a not-for-profit, or were simply working for a cheapskate employer or manager who didn’t pay them their market value.  In that case, we can say “I’m focusing on positions in the $X range.” We can share a salary target, rather than a past salary.

Once we put a number (or a salary range) out there, we can expect the employer rep or the hiring manager to react. We want to make sure the number we mentioned isn’t going to be out of the ballpark for this employer and the time we’re spending on a second interview won’t be wasted. Just in case the person you’re speaking with or corresponding with doesn’t react to your salary number, you can say “Is that number in the ballpark for this role?”

Lots of job-seekers like to play their cards close to the vest. They don’t want to mention a number – they want to react to someone else’s number. But that’s not typically feasible. We have to price ourselves, in the same way a homeowner has to price his (or her) house in order to put it on the market. We can use resources like Glassdoor.com to get a bead on our market value if we’re not confident about that number when we begin a job search. We can’t wait for an employer to bring up this critical topic – they may not do it! In the worst case, we’re presented with an underwhelming offer for a sum we could never countenance. It’s our responsibility to make sure the surprise-lowball-offer scenario doesn’t come to pass, by clearing the air on the salary front before anybody starts thinking about a job offer.

Guest Blogger Liz Ryan is a member of the Glassdoor Clearview Collection and a former Fortune 500 HR executive; she is the Workplace Expert for Business Week Online and the Networking Expert for Yahoo! Hot Jobs. Liz’s advice columns reach 50 million readers per month. Ryan leads the 25,000-member Ask Liz Ryan online community, where she shares business, career and life advice with members every day. She authored the book: "Happy About Online Networking: the virtual-ly simple way to build professional relationships" and is a sought-after keynote speaker. She has addressed a wide range of audiences including the United Nations, CEOs, HR leaders, and entrepreneurs.

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  • careerseeker40125
    Good advice. I just faced this situation for the first time in my career, while interviewing with a charter school, so even teachers now have to negotiate in the capitalist marketplace. I found myself missing the transparency of municipal school systems, for even though the working conditions and HR process in public schools is far from perfect, they do have complete salary transparency.

    Oh, and the result? In my situation I would have had to drive 5 hours for the interview at my expense (approximately a $200 investment considering I would have wanted to also stay overnight so as to be well rested for the interview.) I wanted to at least approach salary and find out the ballpark range they were considering, before making the trip. As soon as I broached the subject politely, they cut off all contact and did not even respond to further calls or emails.
  • lizryan
    Whaaa? that is crazy, CareerSeeker. I'd say you dodged a bullet. Huge red flag when you ask a simple question in order to avoid wasting THEIR time as well as yours, and they turn squirrelly on you. Sorry to hear about it, but they didn't deserve your talents, for sure. Enjoy your weekend! Liz
  • Liz is the best!
  • lizryan
    thanks Dwacon and enjoy your weekend! Liz
  • Being the first to bring up the issue of salary will not harm your chances of getting the job just be sure not to do so in a cocky manner, suggesting "I am worth $$$". There is a fine line between confidence and cockiness so tread carefully in this regard.
  • lizryan
    great observation Retired. I had a young man in my office one time who took this approach. He said "It will take a lot of money to get me on board," and I was nonplussed by that, so I asked him "Why do you say that?" and he looked very sheepish all of a sudden and said "One of my professors told me to say that!" Poor thing.
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