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Updated Aug 22, 2018

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National Defence and the Canadian Forces Minister of National Defence Robert Nicholson
Robert Nicholson
49 Ratings
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  • "Away from home alot and miss famiky(in 22 reviews)

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  1. "If you cant stand the politics, get out of the kitchen!"

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    • Senior Management
    Current Employee - Food Service Worker in Suffield, AB
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time for more than 3 years

    Pros

    Reliable pay cheque, great wage compared to work done, lots of perks, banked time off, pension

    Cons

    Nepotism, arrogance, sexual comments, harassment, walking on egg shells, working with very uneducated people. Lack of respect from management, military does not see the clear and divided line between forces and civilian. Staff abuse right to be in a union, childishness, he said/ she said, constant complaining, constantly talking about people behind their backs, union has failed to step up and grow a pair, have been told by union that the kitchen has been in disarray for over 10 years and has become far worse since the Canadian Military took over. Spiteful, vindictive staff, very immature and belligerent staff. If you have the stomach to last, give it a try. Good luck 10 days on, 4 days off. far to long of a period to spend time with ignorant people.

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    Advice to Management

    Grow a pair and start cleaning up the system, stop protecting your colleagues, nothing will be fixed if you don't act. Stop burying issues and claims hoping they will disappear, why is there even politics inside the kitchen? Grow up. Stop hiring family. That is a very big issue. Family members riding military staff coat tails to find employment, embarrassing.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2018-08-22
  2. "Days are long, weeks are short"

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    Current Employee - Trooper (Trained) in Petawawa, ON
    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    Approves of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time for more than 3 years

    Pros

    - Greatest leadership experience you can possibly get - Experience things most people only read about or see on TV - Great pay for people without post-secondary experience - Teaches the value of teamwork - Paid to stay in shape

    Cons

    - Your life can drastically change depending on leadership changes - Hard to plan your month-to-month, vacations etc. due to high-readiness - Physically taxing, many people get injured within their first ten years - Can be psychologically damaging contingent on mental fortitude and your experiences through the military

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2018-05-09
  3. "Terrible Leadership"

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee 
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time

    Pros

    You will meet some great people and will forge some great friendships.

    Cons

    Military Organization is inherently corrupt. I have seen paper work go missing for individuals that the Chain of Command did not like. RMC (Royal Military College) Officers have their own special little club called ring knockers and they watch out for one another. RMC Officers are trained to believe they are better than everyone else and will always get preferred postings, promotions, and better career opportunities. Individuals are not promoted on merit but rather who they can impress. Nepotism is also inherent and there are many leaders who are just bullies. Mental health issues are abundant in the military and it is not due to the individual. I can guarantee that a majority of mental health issues are caused by the poor leadership. Moreover, there is not enough accountability at the leadership level.

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    Advice to Management

    Commanding Officers of units should be given a review prior to them leaving by their entire staff and personnel. There are many bad apples out there that get away with so many unethical decisions. Retention of personnel will be an issue in the future.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2018-04-12
  4. "QL3 Medical Technician"

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    Current Employee - Combat Medic in Petawawa, ON
    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time for more than 10 years

    Pros

    Working and practicing medicine with, and on, other physically fit, fighting age men and women. A group of intellectually and physically robust peers who feel like family, and have made all the difference in the world. Opportunities to operate meaningfully abroad (some areas dramatically more so than others). Benefits, healthcare, dental, and pension are second to none.

    Cons

    Forced relocation to remote/backwater areas for years at a time. Deliberate, nearly systemic apathy of all levels of command to family concerns when weighed against even minor interference with workplace obligations-- all hidden under the vague title of 'duties'. Chronic, almost comical under-funding and under-staffing exacerbated further by training centers flooding regiment by poorly trained, physically unfit recruits. Rampant prescription drug and alcohol abuse, which is seen as a cornerstone of military culture ("trample the wounded, hurdle the dead"). Management (Non-commissioned officer/officer cadre) is so inept at performance review process and developing their subordinates that they expect subordinates to write their own development and evaluation reports. Frequent embarrassment at the hands of news media (CBC, Toronto Star, Ottawa Citizen, etc) over issues of depth, history, and complexity which cannot be summed up in a five minute briefing. Rampant A-type personalities who would rather beat their chest than get the job done and try to fix a broken system.

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    Advice to Management

    Your troops are the future; they will inherit your mantle, one way or the other. It falls to you to make them look good, because they will do the same to you.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2018-03-19
  5. "Couple true points"

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee 
    Recommends
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time

    Pros

    Guaranteed work and some job stability if not picky on location

    Cons

    Limited location options, and the military will employ just about anyone creating conflict when you work harder and can't get ahead as rank is often based on simple time in position.

    Advice to Management

    Look for specific ways to create baseline stability but also to reward performance.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2017-08-29
  6. "Engineer"

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    Former Employee - Engineer in Ottawa, ON
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I worked at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time for more than 10 years

    Pros

    Good hours and benefits. Some smart people.

    Cons

    Too much bureaucracy. Top down management style is traditional do as I say military and not enough push for bottom up leadership. Doesn't hire the best and brightest.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2017-07-31
  7. "AirForce Firefighter"

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    Current Employee - Firefighter in Comox, BC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces full-time for more than 3 years

    Pros

    Good time off. Rewarding job. Hands on experience plus the benefits of access to the airfield. Relatively relaxed atmosphere.

    Cons

    Moving every 4~5 years to a difference location regardless of situation. Qualifications from the military and not easily transferable on the civilian world.

    Advice to Management

    Qualification equivalence?

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2017-01-26
  8. "MP"

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     in Victoria, BC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook

    I worked at National Defence and the Canadian Forces

    Pros

    Some good people here, and training opportunities abound. Good equipment

    Cons

    Some supervisors who just don't care about their people. People promoted into positions that they are definitely not qualified for. Very cliquish the further up the chain of command you. God forbid you get hurt or injured on the job as you are now a liability to your supervisor. Expect to see the worst of the military when that happens.

    Advice to Management

    You have some decent people and some crummy Senior NCMs making the trade a living hell for their people. More communication is needed with the lower ranks. Stop moving senior people into policing supervisory positions when they've spent most of their career at a desk job in an embassy.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2016-09-17
  9. "HR Advisor - HR-Civ"

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    Advisor in Ottawa, ON
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I have been working at National Defence and the Canadian Forces

    Pros

    Like most federal government jobs it has a good benefits package. Good community building events led by the military. Good colleagues. Note: There is no 'CEO' and the head of DND is not Robert Nicholson - as indicated in the default listing for DND, it is Deputy Minister, John Forster. The ADM of HR-Civ is currently Kin Choi.

    Cons

    Because of the dual nature of the civilian/military workforce, the culture can be challenging for civilian employees. The idea of not challenging the chain of command and not speaking up bleeds over from the military side. Civilian employees managed by military managers often get short shrift for learning and professional development. Management has not evolved to embrace teleworking options in many cases. There's a lot of talk but little action when it comes to talent management. It is a very risk averse organization that has a hard time letting go of old ways of doing things even when they do not work. Ambitious senior managers insist on producing policy and other initiatives quickly (to show activity) without investing in the time and stakeholder consultation to ensure relevance and buy-in for end-users. Repeated instances of this approach have damaged the HR-Civ brand. There is a lot of talk about changing this practice but no evidence of real intent to do so.

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    Advice to Management

    Stop talking about empowering employees and actually do it. There is no way for employees to raise concerns about inappropriate manager behaviour without putting their careers at risk. There are no HR people who are empowered to act as employee advocates for HR employees. Result: loss of top employees who leave to get away from bad managers because there is no safe way to address the problem. Stop talking about talent management and give managers sufficient incentive to make it happen. Right now they see TM as an obstacle to achieving performance objectives and lowball employee evaluations to ensure they don't have to give employees a TM plan. Support language training for non-executives. Telling employees they can't get language training and then sending execs who should have had the language qualification before getting promoted/hired off on full-time SLT leave breeds low morale and distrust of senior management. Embrace and promote teleworking and other more flexible work arrangements and - again - ensure that all managers and supervisors are doing so. Current manager refuses to allow work at home days and has denied staff access to laptops with remote access capability. Develop strategies to address manager insecurities about control of staff, checks and balances to offset manager distrust that are respectful to employees. Invest the necessary time to develop policy, guidance, processes with end-user consultation up-front and during development. Rushing something out the door just to 'check the box' does not further HR-Civ's goal to become known as a strategic business partner. Don't be afraid of disagreement - learn from it - channel it into improving products and services. Engage!

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    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2016-06-26
  10. "Great for student researchers"

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     in Ottawa, ON

    I worked at National Defence and the Canadian Forces

    Pros

    Great for student researchers who want to work in an academic research environment.

    Cons

    Probably hard to work your way up as a civilian an compete with military personnel.

    National Defence and the Canadian Forces2016-05-31
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