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Rain Bird Arizona Reviews

Updated July 18, 2017
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Pros
  • Great coworkers, quality products, and a well-known brand (in 21 reviews)

  • You work with talented people until they are gone (in 16 reviews)

Cons
  • Negativity from some staff members, lack of communication from senior management down the line and some uninspiring work spaces are cons (in 32 reviews)

  • Upper management really, really sucks and puts you in a figurative sleeper hold (in 21 reviews)

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  1. Helpful (9)

    "Succession Planning"

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at Rain Bird full-time (More than 10 years)

    Pros

    They only hire the best just so they can fire the best.

    Cons

    There are many Cons but one of the biggest at Rain Bird is the succession planning. All managers and directors are required to have identified successors to take their place just in case. So what happens is they will hire or promote someone just to be their backup on paper only later to realize that they are not as good as they thought so they are then pushed out through corrective action. I can hear it now, "Sorry, you are not meeting the expectations required for Rain Bird management." I have seen this more times than I can remember. It's really sad for those individuals that relocate their families just to be pushed out one year later while the hiring manager is seen as getting things done by cycling out the poor performers.

    Advice to Management

    Stop pretending everything with the company is ok and that the only problems are due to poor performing individuals. Maybe if you knew how to interview you wouldn't keep hiring poor performers. It's all a big charade to keep and protect upper management.


  2. Helpful (6)

    "Hard to be happy here."

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    Former Employee - Marketing Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Marketing Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (More than 10 years)

    Pros

    All of your co-workers are completely competent and skilled.
    Solid brand (except for the work environment), high quality products.
    Financially very secure and able to invest.

    Cons

    Being paranoid of what could go wrong and a devil's advocate for reasons not to progress are considered badges of honor.
    Everyone in the company is looking for a better opportunity, but Rain Bird pays well and similar jobs in Tucson, AZ are hard to find.

    Advice to Management

    It doesn't matter. The advice will be ignored, anyway. Even managers at the highest level shut down their desires to change this company for the better, or they will be shown the door.

  3. Helpful (1)

    "Good, if you have the right personality"

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Approves of CEO

    I worked at Rain Bird full-time (More than 3 years)

    Pros

    Rain Bird pays well. They also have good benefits. They emphasize continuous improvement, although provide little training. Advancement is possible.

    Cons

    Rain Bird likes to hire career driven people who thrive in competition. This creates an atmosphere of extreme competition. Everyone tries to manage those around them. No one actually does much work. Every day at work felt like being a contestant on “Survivor.” If you thrive in a cut-throat, competitive environment and you are good at what you do, you will like Rain Bird.
    A lot of jobs are being sent to Mexico (Engineering, Human Resources, Accounting …)

    Advice to Management

    Instead of “transitioning out” people in the bottom 20% performance level, give them realistic training goals and provide them with resources. to achieve their goals.


  4. Helpful (12)

    "Thinking about working for Big Tony and his crew? Fuggedaboutit!"

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    Current Employee - Product Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Product Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at Rain Bird full-time (More than a year)

    Pros

    They offered me a job when I needed one (they are always hiring).

    The salary for Arizona standards is good.

    They pay for relocation and 30 days of temporary housing.

    Cons

    Pretty much everything else.

    If you have ever heard the old tale of the scorpion and the frog, where the scorpion stings the frog carrying him across the river and they both drown. Then you will understand everything you need to know about Rain Bird. When the frog asks the scorpion why he stung him, the scorpion replies, "It;s my nature." That in a nutshell is Rain Bird. They are all kind and sweet when they recruit you (we only hire the best and the brightest), however once you are there you begin to see the true nature of the firm and its senior managers.

    When you wonder why it takes forever to get simple products to market (years instead of months), when you see your director obsessing over punctuation (stage gate process), when your coworkers through you under the bus (monthly team meetings), when you have to use your own personal credit card for everything (you give them a free loan) when you are unable to get a complete bill of material for your product, when your peers are evasive regarding the product line history, when contracts can only be seen by the senior managers, when your buddy ends up on corrective action, etc., etc., etc., just remember, "It's their nature".

    I remember being assigned a cubicle in Tucson. The previous occupant, a former product manger in another division had left all kinds of personal items in the desk (checkbooks, receipts, credit card statements, etc.). At the time I wondered why they would leave their personal belongs behind? Later I realized they must have either quit or been fired/escorted out of the building in a hurry. That got me thinking and I started tracking turnover based on the list of field sales people. Within 12 months about 40% of the field sales had turned over.

    It all starts going downhill day one. When I asked to see my predecessors files (the job had been vacant for nine months) it took them a week to find them for me. You would think that something necessary to do your job would have been available at the beginning, but that would make too much sense. I think the Sr. Product Manager new he had to mark someone down and was setting me up for failure from day one.

    If you choose to work at Rain Bird (which I would really advise you not to), remember not take the abusive nature of the place personally (which you will). They treat everybody like crap, which is why turnover is so high. Their HR system is a joke (the head of HR was an accountant) designed to drive turnover.

    For me the turning point came while standing in a muddy poop covered field, looking into a filthy cobweb infested controller filled with dead bugs and mouse droppings that I realized, "This is no way to make a living and their are better ways of providing for my family."

    Rain Bird may tell you that Glassdoor is full of bitter ex-employees, and there is some truth to that. Rain Bird leaves the bitter taste of vomit in your mouth. The place is like a large pus-filled boil that eventually you have to either learn to live with or lance with a sharp needle sanitized in fire in order to get out the bloody core. It can be painful and uncomfortable at the time but in truth it is the only way to deal with the infection and move on with the process of healing.

    In hindsight knowing what I know now would I do it again? I took the job because I needed the paycheck to feed my family. However, my two best days at Rain Bird? The day I got my first paycheck and the day I resigned and walked out the door.

    Advice to Management

    None. You won't change, because like the Scorpion, "It's your nature."


  5. Helpful (7)

    "Dont plan on staying long"

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    The only pro is that they pay better than the competition. They have the best products on the market and the best people at the sales and product management level

    Cons

    They have to pay better, because it is such a poor working environment.
    Benefits are terrible
    upper management is focused on wrong things.
    no feeling of support for employees
    High turnover of product managers, Engineers and sales people.

    Advice to Management

    Update your management style to the new century. If you continue to do what you have always done the 60% turnover rate is never going to change.


  6. Helpful (8)

    "Avoid the frustration, stay away, terrible culture."

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    Former Employee - Sales Representative in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Sales Representative in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    Good products. Good associates at RB. You will develop a "We are all in this together" approach with your peers; conversations will be about moving on and how the job search is progressing. You will develop a great network of friends as Rain Bird hires and fires randomly. Many move on to more fulfilling jobs. Your contacts and friends from your time at Rain Bird will prove invaluable in the future.

    Cons

    Listless company with no vision/message from ownership. Management struggles to deal with owner as they try to implement strategy. Culture is a disaster, management by fear carries the day. Office is depressing with everyone fearful of a pink slip.

    The market looks at Rain Bird as a company that can't seem to get it's act together with sales people, product managers, and engineers coming and going each year. Independent distribution is tired of the endless parade of new sales people who last less than two years in the position, and have no industry experience, while the competition has a sales force that has a staff of reps that on average have been with them for more than a decade.

    The Rain Bird strategy over the last few years has been to lower pricing of key product catagories in an effort to drive the competiton out of the business. The result has been shrinking margins for the distributors and less profitabilty for every one.

    Corrective action review process at Rain Bird is a total disaster with indescriminate choosing of people who do not "measure up". Once chosen by the directors to be placed on "corrective action" , middle managers will create issues with their reports which have very little to do with reality or the contributions the individual makes to advance sales. As a result, it leaves you with little respect for them. They are a weak lot generally, selling out their direct reports on the direction of incompetent directors. They are biding their time, padding their resumes hoping to leave soon. The good managers/leaders who really care about their employees leave quickly as they will not be a part of the disfunctional negative system and culture. If they stay and try to support their targeted employees, they too find themselves on corrective action.

    Company alienates independent distribution network, always promoting their strategy to "go direct to end user" while competitors reap the benefits of partnering with distributors and getting the most out of them to advance their sales. As a result the competition has an incredible advantage in the marketplace. Distribution recommending competitive products over Rain Bird goods is common throughout the domestic market at most distributor branch locations .

    As others have written before me, do your research, contact past and present employees. Contact distribution and you will find that it is a troubled organization confirming the consistant negative reviews this company receives on Glass Door.

    Advice to Management

    I do not have any advice for management as they are a hopeless bunch at Rain Bird. Many are looking for other opportunities outside of the organization, and are merely trying to navigate through the disfunctional system until they find other employment. To those core employees at the director and management level who manage to thrive and survive, they know how bad the culture is and are just going along for the ride.


  7. Helpful (1)

    "Wish i would have seen this site before joining..."

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    Former Employee - Associate Product Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Associate Product Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    It is a great product and your fellow employees are usually of a very good caliber. It makes you feel good to work wiht quality people that "get it"

    Cons

    At this point you've probably read all the posts on here that are negative. I'll share that I was actually an employees much longer ago that indicated on here, but was compelled to post after stumbling on the site. Even after nearly 10 years of being going I find may of the negative comments resonating with my whatI experienced. Lack of trust.. It is truly McGregor's "theory X" management style at work, from an academic standpoint it is very interesting to see - at least I had never see it in this pure of form before!

    As marketing, you have a GREAT product to work with. However, don't expect to get creative with it, and don't expect to take their great market recognition and presence and run with it.

    They are entrenched in what they have always done, and unfortunately that continues today. While the insults i've seen thrown at the very top management may be inapprpriate, they not completely un-credible. RB is a comapny that has been very successful, but it is now time to go from a family-run styles of business and get a professional mangement team in place.

    The comapany, product and people have an incredible amount of potential. it's time to unleash that potential.

    Advice to Management

    Guys, for 10 years or more it has been time for Tony to step aside, and do it without shame. Take pride in what has been accomplished - the company has been incredibly successful, but it can be so much more so with the right team in place.

  8. Helpful (5)

    "Unbelievably HORRIBLE Place - but you really should believe the insights on glassdoor.com before you opt to work here!"

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    Tucson is a great place to live, but unfortunately not many alternative, reasonably well-paying jobs (Once you get here and fall in love with the community, it's tough to stay due to lack of professional opportunities...)

    Competent, albeit generally scared co-workers who see that everyone is in the same dire straits at the prison-like Rain Bird facility, and thus always looking for a job "on the outside"

    Air conditioned building (important in 100+ degree heat!) and free, but uncovered parking.

    Cons

    Incredibly twisted, demented and unhealthy culture - Senior Management is not only disinterested in having a decent quality of life for themselves and their own families, but they feel compelled to make their employees equally (or more) miserable - such a sad, sad environment...

    Although the >40% annual turnover is tough to believe, it aligns well with corporate philosophy of squeezing as much as possible out of new employees and then simply kicking them to the curb once they're broken down and defeated, and often after they have left behind fairly decent situations in other parts of the country.

    Rampant paranoia is evident from the very top and throughout SBU leadership - I've never seen a place that not only hates its channel partners (i.e., distributors) but has obvious disgust for its employees, the very people who are simply trying to help the company succeed, or at least survive.

    Advice to Management

    Regrettably there is nothing that can be said that would break through - the paranoid, power freaks in control are just not able to listen to reason. Only the inevitable implosion of the company and subsequent sale of assets by a bankruptcy court will enable the brand to last much more than 10 more years...


  9. Helpful (8)

    "This may be the worst place to work anywhere."

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    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Anonymous Employee in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    They pay well, Tucson is a very nice place to live especially if you have a family. Nothing else is good about this company.

    Cons

    This company works harder at figuring reasons to not get things done. There are more meetings about having meeting than any place I have ever been. There is a written policy to act quickly - "The 24 hour rule!" What a joke! Try to do something here on your own and see how fast you get fired. The culture is horrible, the equipment is 20 years old, the computer monitors are 17" CRTs! Senior management is too old and out of touch with the rest of the business world. Anyone who has been at the company for more than a few years is a complete Yes Man Drone. Stay away if you can at all costs.

    Advice to Management

    Sell the company and let real leadership do the job.


  10. Helpful (7)

    "Employees are not valued and there is no loyalty whatsoever."

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    Current Employee - Regional Sales Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Current Employee - Regional Sales Manager in Tucson, AZ
    Doesn't Recommend
    Disapproves of CEO

    Pros

    Rain Bird has good name brand recognition and quality products.
    it is nice to work for an industry leader.
    They pay well.

    Cons

    Rain Bird does not see the value of an employee. People are hired and let go constantly. They hire for the moment, but not for the long term vision. People doing a great job in one department because a different division is struggling at the moment. There are not many tenured people in middle management. Out of my department of 24 people, only 3 had been there over 4 years.
    Top management is also so paranoid about having any sales or product cost figures leaked to the competition that they do not even let their sales managers know important costs and figures they could use to better do their jobs. It's insane. The freakiest atmosphere I've ever experienced. Everyone watching their backs and running around paranoid about their jobs. It's weird.

    Advice to Management

    Hire good people and give them a chance to help your company. Give them the tools they need and you'll be surprised at how they become as much of an asset as your products. They may even add more value to your customers than your product. Let's face it, product differences are getting negligible. However, the human difference can be huge.


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