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SAS Institute Reviews

Updated March 21, 2017
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  • If you're in an oncall rotation your work/life balance will suffer (in 11 reviews)

  • Turnover rate is so low, it could be hard to move up in the company (in 10 reviews)

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  1. Helpful (2)

    "Backwards company full of impediments to innovation."

    Star Star Star Star Star
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    • Comp & Benefits
    • Senior Management
    Former Employee - Senior Software Engineer in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Software Engineer in Cary, NC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (More than 5 years)

    Pros

    Decent compensation, great on-site amenities, fantastic lunch program.

    Cons

    Older R&D workforce that is not open to new ideas or innovation, wildly overhyped benefits package.


  2. Helpful (2)

    "Not What It's Cracked Up To Be"

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    Current Employee - Software Developer in Cary, NC
    Current Employee - Software Developer in Cary, NC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (More than 3 years)

    Pros

    short work weeks. 35 hours is standard.
    very green grass around campus.

    Cons

    The title says it all: don't believe the hype.
    All these best places to work awards must be rigged, bought, or a be tremendous HR/PR effort.
    The perks/benefits might have been astonishing in years past but in 2017 they are simply on par with other tech companies, and even well-behind in some categories. Most of the good benefits that older generations at SAS got are no longer available or have been greatly diminished.
    One of the areas they are far behind in? Compensation. Low pay, and low to no raises has been normal for some time now. Bonuses are meager. For a company that does over 3B in revenue and has been profitable forever, that is astonnnnnnnnishing. Meanwhile the CEO (whose own wealth continues to grow like crazy) continues to build new buildings on campus (even though there's a hiring freeze going on) and building developments off-site for his own gain. That last part is completely fine and his prerogative, but it is a slap in the face to employees that don't get paid well or get merit increases, and his bank accounts continue to grow like crazy because he owns the company (not public, no investors, yada yada.) and can do whatever he wants with his money. Here's an idea: Maybe freeze some raises/benefits for the huge amount of people in MGMT and yourself so you can reward top performers in an attempt to gain back some respect from employees who are undervalued and not being rewarded for hard work?
    No room for growth whatsoever unless you "stick it out" for 5-10 years when you MIGHT get bumped up one level. Maybe.
    So who wants to work here? A couple types of people from what I can tell: 1) people over a certain age who have been here 10-30 years and don't have the drive to pick up and leave. They don't have to work hard and they've been here long enough when they actually got raises and benefits that were ahead of the competition so they are in a good place. 2) average workers. people who don't want stress, don't want to push themselves, and just be able to have a short work week to spend time at home or with family. Totally get it. That's a good bit of people.
    The last couple of comments sum up why SAS is falling behind and will continue to do so. Any young and/or good talent soon realizes that it is not all it was cracked up to be and jumps ship to any one of the faster, smarter, and more generous tech companies in the area. There are plenty of other local tech companies that move fast, embrace change, reward solid work and not just tenure (remember, these are usually people who aren't the best that end up sticking around), and have comparable benefits.
    If you are 21-30, I would highly encourage you to think twice about working here. The writing is on the wall.

    Advice to Management

    rethink everythjnf


  3. Helpful (12)

    "Smoke and Mirrors"

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time

    Pros

    Nice campus, good cafes, most people are very nice and it seems like a small community.

    Cons

    SAS used to have an really different culture where people liked to work there, but over time the place grew stagnant. I attribute that to the leadership both at the top and Human Resources.

    Benefits have been on the decline when compared to other private companies. No career development. No pay for performance - Sr. management doesn't really care if you do an outstanding job or a mediocre job, you get basically the same small bonus and salary adjustment as everyone else. People are afraid to deliver bad results so problems usually go on without being addressed. The slackers are seldom dealt with so they tend to drag down others and the good people who want to do well end up leaving the company. In some departments it is all about who you know and what sex you are and to me that isn't how you get the best people to deliver great software.

    Advice to Management

    You really need to take a good look at the culture you are breeding and how other companies like yours has invested in career development, nurturing both the young, middle and older generations of the workforce.


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  5. Helpful (1)

    "The Big Data Establishment"

    Star Star Star Star Star
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    • Senior Management
    Former Contractor - Independent Contractor in Cary, NC
    Former Contractor - Independent Contractor in Cary, NC
    Recommends
    Positive Outlook
    No opinion of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute as a contractor (More than a year)

    Pros

    Laid back atmosphere, dress code varies from building to building, beautiful campus, good and affordable cafe food and presentation, facilites, parking, progressive | keep it green mindset. SAS looks real nice on a resume.

    Cons

    Its established and ain't changing. A fairly smug net of employees who have been there a LONG time. So long, that they would be hapless midldle agers looking for a job if they had too.
    If you are fortunate enough to land a contract at Cary theres not much you can say or do to impress anyone there. SAS is at the top of the food chain and they know it. Newcomers spin their wheels a lot constantly having to face the vast book of unwritten rules. "You can't park there, thats so and so's parking spot who has been here 25 years..."
    etc...
    Most here think that how good they have it is the same story everywhere out there in corporate america. They live in a bubble, a "Pleasantville".
    Anyways,I was blessed to have worked with many a good Joe and Jane there. Smart folks.

    Advice to Management

    My advice to everyone there, not just Management: Enjoy it, and milk it while it lasts.


  6. Helpful (7)

    "Not a Sales Organization"

    Star Star Star Star Star
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    Current Employee - Account Executive
    Current Employee - Account Executive
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I have been working at SAS Institute full-time (More than 3 years)

    Pros

    Nice people. As a sales person your time can be spent prospecting - not doing TPR reports. Health insurance is a traditional PPO and very nice if you need the coverage. High deductible plan is not an option.

    Cons

    Simply put Dr. Goodnight does not see value in a sales organization. He believes the software is so great it should sell itself. This attitude is very apparent within the company - sales people are second class. 95% of the deals being completed are renegotiation of existing contracts and catching customers who are out of compliance. 60% of reps do not make their numbers, year over year attainment is nearly unheard of. Turn over within sales is high compared to other large companies.

    If you are not in the Cary, NC office then you are a wicked step-child and will never be accepted.

    Benefits for remote employees are lousy. 401K matching does not vest for 5 years. Additional vacation days are not earned for 10 years. You are not eligible for annual bonuses until year 2, vesting rules apply. Comp plans also include a team achievement gate which is largely out of your control. Don't join SAS and expect to make money.

    Advice to Management

    Not enough food to go around the table. Either cut the sales force by 1/3 or reconfigure to aggressively pursue new business. Time for Dr. Goodnight to take a Chairman position and bring in a new CEO from outside the North Carolina ranks.


  7. Helpful (2)

    "Account Executive"

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    Former Employee - Account Executive in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Account Executive in Cary, NC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (More than a year)

    Pros

    Nicely groomed campus, access to onsite services, cheap food in the cafe's.

    Cons

    Less than competitive pay, zero room to move in the organization and unevenly distributed work loads. Out dated sales tools!

    Advice to Management

    Clear-out dead weight collecting paychecks waiting for retirement, stop being a great place to work because people don't have to!


  8. Helpful (3)

    "Hard to move up"

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    • Senior Management
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee in Cary, NC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Neutral Outlook

    I worked at SAS Institute part-time (More than a year)

    Pros

    Great benefits, nice people, cafeteria, gym, and health care center. The campus is beautiful and very nice to drive through.

    Cons

    It's very hard to move up due to people never wanting to leave the company. They also do not pay well or very competitive to the job market due to the benefits and all the people who want to work there so bad. They get away with offering a lower salary because "everyone wants to work there". Don't fall for it.

    Advice to Management

    Be open to new ideas and don't think that people will take anything money wise just because it's SAS.


  9. Helpful (2)

    "Poor leadership"

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    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee

    Pros

    Cool product. Company has great employee perks.

    Cons

    Poor leaderahip with very stab you in the back sales team


  10. Helpful (7)

    "Needs new direction"

    Star Star Star Star Star
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    • Culture & Values
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    • Senior Management
    Former Employee - Account Executive
    Former Employee - Account Executive
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook
    Disapproves of CEO

    I worked at SAS Institute full-time (More than a year)

    Pros

    The campus is nice and good benefits. The food in the cafeteria is good and priced well when you are in Cary.

    Cons

    Sales management is poor and out of touch. The comp is below market. Innovation is too slow. If you are not based in Cary it's a below average place to work. Sales management in some areas is very weak and they are starting to experience high attrition due to their mismanagement.

    Advice to Management

    Retire and get new folks with new ideas in to revive this company.


  11. Helpful (8)

    "Running out of time to stay competitive"

    Star Star Star Star Star
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    • Career Opportunities
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    • Senior Management
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Former Employee - Senior Manager in Cary, NC
    Doesn't Recommend
    Negative Outlook

    I worked at SAS Institute (More than 10 years)

    Pros

    Good benefits, great benefits if you are at Corporate HQ in Cary, NC. Nice place if you are in a lower to mid-level position, especially if you have little kids.

    Cons

    Minimal upward mobility due to gridlock at the top. Most of the key executives have been with SAS their entire careers, so they don't know the outside world very well, and cross-pollination of ideas from those coming in are quickly squashed, typically for political reasons. Company knows Analytics well, but falls way short of where they should be at understanding how to effectively run a business, both inside the company as well as with its clients. It's the Peter Principle in full effect. Additionally, they have a tendency to confuse their clients (whom they refer to and treat like customers) with too many disjointed points of contact, and broken down processes between functional silos. Disconnect between Sales goals and Professional Services goals are pronounced, and drive the wrong behaviors for everyone involved, typically resulting in something being oversold and under-delivered, then the finger pointing starts.

    Advice to Management

    Bring in some new blood at the top. Hire a reputable Management Consulting firm to come in and assess the situation and make recommendations. Then actually listen to the recommendations and act on them. Competition is growing, so SAS can't rest on its laurels for much longer without addressing these issues and survive for much longer.



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