SCAMMERS - Anonymous employee OxfordSaudia Employee Review

Working here taught me immense patience. Contractors usually seem to be treated pretty well, and I've met some really nice people as we revolved through here. Everything else is really a "con".

The owner is a micro-manager, but when things go wrong she blames everyone else for (a) not doing their jobs AND (b) complains about having to do their jobs for them. She is highly combative and pits employees against each other for no apparent reason (often by bad-mouthing someone when they are not around). Pay is already low for the Bay Area and you are expected to be reachable by the owner day or night, with no extra pay. Read the other 1-star reviews by in-house staff. Those are the true reviews. I wouldn't put it past the owner to have bullied her friends and family sign up on here (Lord knows enough of them have worked there) and post glowing 5-star reviews. I, personally, on more than one occasion, have been instructed to submit the owner for some award or other, so it's not a stretch to see that still going on.

Compound is nice New chief instructor is a cool guy and may be able to make things slightly better (though I'm heavily suspicious that he fabricated one of the few positive reviews here) Saudi Arabia is a pretty awesome place to live. Super friendly locals, low prices

I am on my virtual knees begging you not to work for this company. These guys have no idea what they are doing on a professional, aviation, or legal scale. As a brief introduction to how much these guys are criminals: it is difficult to lease/buy a car in Saudi as a non-national so the company coordinates a program where you can lease a Corolla directly from them for the low, low price of $920 USD per month. Anyway, more about the school. The program is a scam of epic proportions. The students pay over $100,000 USD for a course that is supposed to give them ASEL and AMEL commercials along with an A-320 type rating. The school found out early on that the English comprehension and math skills that students get coming out of local high schools were unsatisfactory so the students go through a 1.5-2 year foundational program where they learn how to speak aviation English and perform basic calculations. The CFIs don't see students until after this phase. Once they get out, they go through ground school classes of 15-30 students in the same cohort. They then reach the flight line. However, here is where the real problems start. First, the school does not have authorization from the Saudi government to fly to a third airport. Currently they are only permitted to fly to OEAH (72 nm away). Flight training activities such as traffic patterns and ground reference maneuvers are not permitted at Dammam (OEDF) so all pattern work has to be preceded and followed by an hour-long xc. Maneuvers have to be practiced in a practice area in the middle of the desert, also a good 30+nm away. To complicate things further, the dust and sand in the air is so bad in the desert that there is no real way to identify a horizon. Visibility will very regularly make for IMC even though there isn't a cloud in sight. Don't be fooled by the stories of all these brand new DA40s either. GACA, the country's regulator (FAA), has not been to the school since December in order to certificate any new planes. There are several brand new DA40s on the cargo ramp in OEDF that are untouchable because they are still Austrian-registered, not Saudi. Op Specs are so brutal that these planes cannot operate with a single thing inop. Flights cancel over things as trivial as missing fuel testers and worn out velcro. There are probably about 3-4 airworthy aircraft at any given time. Don't believe me? Check flightaware for OEDF movements, the school's planes all start with HZ-XF and then a number or two. The school built a nice hangar behind the building but the airport authority won't let them build a patch of pavement to connect it to the taxiway complex so all aircraft are on the cargo ramp. It's a 30 minute shuttle ride from the school to the airport and then you have to go through their equivalent of TSA and take another shuttle to your plane. Because of all this, instructors will get 15-30 hours a month. Tie in the occasional unexplained airspace closure due to Yemeni rockets, and you'll come to the horrifying realization that no student at OxfordSaudia has ever been signed off for a Private Pilot checkride. In fact, due to the inability to get authorization to fly to a third airport, no student has even completed their long solo xc. There are students who have been with the school for about three years now, and they are pissed off. That's enough about the students, more about you as an instructor. It doesn't say so in the job posting, but you do not get paid your salary until you pass the conversion checkride. Until you pass, you are on a training wage of $2,100/month. They told us three months for the conversion process. This is wildly inaccurate. First, you will need to go to Jeddah to take the written exams, from Private through CFII. These will not be challenging since they are the same as the current Gleim FAA exams. Even though Saudi Arabia has different aviation laws (think 75% FAA and 25% ICAO), GACA has not bothered to make their own set of written exams. In the interest of professionalism, I will attempt to refrain from giving my personal opinion on GACA, but I think it should be pretty obvious. As a side note, these are the same exams the students must take before unlearning all of this information to relearn the Saudi regs. Once you pass the written exams, you prepare for the conversion checkride. The conversion checkride is administered by a DPE who flies for Saudia Airlines (not to be confused with OxfordSaudia, which has no relation other than having pilfered the name). He did his training in Tennessee at MTSU. His pass rate is somewhere around 20%, regardless of whether or not he already busted you. His oral exam is usually a full 8 hours and his practical is about 5.5. Naturally, some of his busts have been totally fair (a guy flew an ILS approach on pink needles. That's a bust in anybody's book), but a lot of his busts have been very arbitrary. When you do fail a checkride, the company will bill you for the DPE fee, which will be somewhere around $900 USD. It will be deducted from your training pay. Right now, there are guys just starting to get their shots on the checkride after arriving about 4-4.5 months ago. But with the new hiring wave, it may well be a year before you test. There were guys on one year contracts last year who never got a chance to test at all and went back home with nothing more than training pay. The worst part of everything at this company is their abhorrent disregard for labor law even in one of the most laborer-oppressive countries in the world. You will be expected to be present at the academy 9 hours per day, regardless of whether or not you have anything scheduled for the day. The airport is 15-20 miles into the desert and a whole hour away from the compound so forget about killing time off-premises outside of lunch. When you get your housing at the compound, unless your family is with you (three months after your first day, per company policy), you will be put in a two-bedroom apartment with another CFI. For me it isn't the end of the world but it is yet another failure by the company to live up to its word. Regularly expect to be given working hours and short rest periods that are illegal per Saudi Labor Law. The company will regularly lie to you about pay in order to get you to comply. Remember (or learn now for the first time) that in Saudi Arabia, you not only need a visa to enter the country; you also need a visa to leave the country. If you don't have an exit visa, you will not be allowed past security at the airport. The exit visa is issued by your employer. There was a run of six FAA guys who realized that this company was a lie and they all encountered problems with the company. When you try to resign, the company will take the remainder of the contract and bill you training pay for the rest of the contract (if you quit two months in, you owe them $45,000+), even though Saudi Labor Law gives employees the right to quit during probation for free. They will tell you that you cannot receive an exit visa until you pay up. This is also wildly illegal. Usually, I would try to give a balanced synopsis to anybody who wants more info and allow them to reach their own conclusions. But this is not a usual case. This company is absolutely terrible and they will either ruin you financially or drive you insane throughout your contract period. Please do not come here. They fired two members of flight management when their contracts expired without notice, rumor is without paying their end-of-service benefits or severance costs, likely $30k+ in unpaid wages.