The Training Program is a Con - Financial Advisor Associate Morgan Stanley Employee Review

1.0
May 12, 2013
Recommend
CEO approval
Business Outlook

Pros

MSSB has one of the best brands in the retail brokerage business

Cons

Look, becoming a financial advisor a la Morgan Stanley, Merrill, et al is at best a daunting task. However, ask yourself, how do these firms profit from month after month bringing in FA trainees knowing full good and well that only about 1 in 10 make it five years and only about 2 in 10 even make it to 18 months? The answer: Trainees don't cost much. Getting new clients, even for established FA's is getting harder and harder. The "financial advisor" profession is way past saturated. Secondly, the biggest trend in the profession is for FA's at the brokerage firms to either go purely independent as fee-based RIA's, or at least go to a much lower cost/higher payout platforms such as LPL. Sooooo, what about our trainees? Well, even the worst trainees are going to bring in one or two or so good accounts before they self-select out due to not making much money or the firm fires them for not hitting sales goals. And, who gets those good accounts when our trainee leaves MSSB? You got it, the established brokers get them, NOT struggling new FA's. Put another way, the training programs are nothing more than client acquisition programs for the established FAs. Giving these guys the accounts is one of the ways the traditional brokerage firms try to keep them from bolting to greener pastures. In the meantime, our trainees are back on the street trying to find real jobs. The only trainees who ever make it are those who have either family members or a big rolodex of close acquaintances who will give them substantial money very soon. If you are not in that category, remember: You are expected to bring in a few good accounts reasonably soon and then leave the firm. In short, the best outcome for the brokerage firms is for trainees to become big producers. But, that's not the plan. If it were, do you think the failure rate would be anything approaching 90%? Really? No, the second best, and by far the most likely outcome, is for you to bring in a few good accounts and then leave the firm as soon as possible. It's a very cynical model and is just one example of why the traditional retail brokerage firms are continuing to lose market share to just about everybody else. Even retail prospects/clients are beginning to ask questions like "Why am I paying so much in fees and commissions?" "What the heck is my performance and how does it compare to an appropriate benchmark?" Those are not questions the Morgan Stanleys of the world want to hear. But, for job seekers, just understand, it's a rigged game. Morgan Stanley, Merrill, UBS, et al have a perverse, short-term model that is designed for you to fail. Although they are encouraging FAs to go to fee-based models, it's simply in their DNA to view all prospects/clients as nothing more than a source of revenues. In fact, all you really have to know is that the only thing... the only thing.... that they grade all FA's on is how much money they make off of every client. so long as they don't break any regulations.

Explore other reviews about Morgan Stanley

3.0
May 30, 2026
Recommend
CEO approval
Business Outlook

Pros

Very good co-workers, Great technology stack. Lot of new technologies and integration with current work.

Cons

They dont even give you a MS cup. They ask you to buy it for 5$. So cheap! Management big on "Giving back", Immediate managers do not like it and are not supportive. Lay off employees twice a year to show profits. Only worried about shareholders and clients. Don't know the criteria for lay-off. So, you are always worried if it is your turn. They boast about mental health and wellness. No good, when they layoff employees like this. HR = Horrible Resources. When you are laid off, they shoo you away as if you are a fly. You feel miserable. They themselves say - "We are better than Facebook or Oracle. We dont fire you at 6 AM over email." Gosh! What a comparison!

See reviews by: Helpful|Rating|Date|All