They talked a lot about how great they are. I thought I did a decent job of listening. It's hard to believe anyone gets that excited about Kyocera printers. They went from stating they'd have me start work within a week to no offer, we're pursuing other applicants. I think they are still resisting the fact that creativity requires a salary, maybe more than their sales people. Very self centered and misleading. Considering it a God thing I was spared of this cult-like culture.